12-01-2003 14:08									#1
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I was playing a long-time former friend today and I found out that he was using the unsinkable cheat. He had done this on prior occasions as well and had justified at along various lines of:

1) He claims this is "knowledge."
2) He figures other people do it.
3) He figures he'll never be caught with his "I always risk my boats" excuse.

I caught him on 3 occasions using the boat cheat in our games, and I figure he does this in every game. Today was the last time I would tolerate this cheating, however, for I warned him not to do it and gave him the benefit of the doubt on previous occasions.

So confirm for us all. The unsinkable boat is a cheat, am I not right?

	12-01-2003 23:44									#2
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never heard of it.. & who was this so called cheater

	13-01-2003 00:28									#3
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I will not reveal his true identity, but his zone name is Zeppelin. It's only fair to let everyone know that he uses the boat cheat. He admits to the deed as well.

	13-01-2003 00:56									#4
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thats why i stopped playing on the zone a long time ago..... can never trust anyone

	13-01-2003 00:58									#5
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tough one to check for.Yes its definitly a cheat.

its done by just moving 2 spaces,press W(wait) and using the end turn keyboard shortcut.Same techinque that is used to keep missles and planes aloft forever if you want.

	13-01-2003 03:09									#6
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Yup, that's a classic cheat originally used by the AI to prevent it's unit from crashing mid air.

	13-01-2003 03:53									#7
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oh ok i knew about how to do that .. thought it might be a program... & why wont you say who old name was

	13-01-2003 04:02									#8
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Because out of old friendship's sake, I pledged not to dishonor his real name. That's all. I do not consider him a friend, because he lied straight to my face. Said he'd never do it again, but again and again, he used it in every game he played with me.

	13-01-2003 05:41									#9
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I agree that this is a cheat that should not be allowed. I've posted in our rules set for this to be included as not allowed.

Thanks for reminding us of this one. I had forgotten about it.

RAH

	13-01-2003 06:01									#10
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It's an old CHEAT... and I don't think I remember anybody in the old days defending the use of this trick.
People that use it should be taken out and shot

	13-01-2003 06:09									#11
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lynch him, i have never used this cheat. cheating is pointless

	13-01-2003 07:32									#12
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I just assume everyone at the zone cheats. I was playing someone there this week and getting lag when I was hosting, lol!

I destroyed a hydey city this weekend and he was left with a tri sticking out of a land square. So he attacked me with it - we just laughed about it.

	13-01-2003 07:45									#13
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hey i resent that... i'm a zonner & i dont cheat .. we all dont cheat.. most dont finnish there games but we all dont cheat

	13-01-2003 08:04									#14
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I didn't say everyone cheats at the zone - I said I assume everyone cheats. Saves time later

	13-01-2003 08:08									#15
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i'm sorry you did say that .. i gotta read more carefully

	13-01-2003 08:44									#16
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but we really knew what he meant zoners all cheat...

	13-01-2003 14:23									#17
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quote: Originally posted by War4ever but we really knew what he meant zoners all cheat...

It is certainly better here in that regard......though finishing games is a problem no matter where you play.

My vote is that this is a clear cheat btw.

	14-01-2003 03:53									#18
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A bug, a flaw, a cheat.

	14-01-2003 04:00									#19
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike It is certainly better here in that regard......though finishing games is a problem no matter where you play.

Not at the zone - they play settings where I quickly get creamed.

	14-01-2003 04:08									#20
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it would appear that if someone attacks before mech infantry you don't like that either, which translated into aussie means you get creamed ? or do i have that wrong ?

	14-01-2003 06:17									#21
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Last I checked there were a whole 5 people that still played this game. Who cares?

	14-01-2003 06:34									#22
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quote: Originally posted by HappySunShine Last I checked there were a whole 5 people that still played this game. Who cares?

Gee... you need to make some more friends... I know plenty of people that still play... well, at least I know plenty of people that will play with me

*and note, there are 65 people currently signed up for the Civ II MP Group*

	14-01-2003 06:46									#23
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quote: Originally posted by War4ever it would appear that if someone attacks before mech infantry you don't like that either, which translated into aussie means you get creamed ? or do i have that wrong ?

No I like early war. 6000 years of microing can get a little dull.

I go to the zone regularly for a dose of wham bam thank you maam civ.

No problems getting a game. In fact I refuse more than I play.

The ultimate insult to Eyes is many people won't play him over there because of past cheating and keep watch for his latest login.

I mean, a civ leper at the zone? How low can can you go?

	14-01-2003 14:23									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse I mean, a civ leper at the zone? How low can can you go?

Hehe.

There still have to be three figures of active players left, when you combine the settings at least.......so 5 is hyperbole.

However more popular MP games do have 3000 players online at all times.....the difference is stark.

	14-01-2003 15:52									#26
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How many other 1996 games are still going strong?

	14-01-2003 15:55									#27
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quote: Originally posted by deity How many other 1996 games are still going strong?

Not many MP.....quakeworld is still quite popular, and TA (which is just over a year younger than civ) is still played.

	14-01-2003 22:57									#28
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you mean there's othe MP games out there other then Civilization

	15-01-2003 02:17									#29
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i too was not aware of this fact even in its heyday....civ2 never had the numbers of AOE...which is a shame, but then again, many children have the attention span of bug

	15-01-2003 03:23									#30
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I'd rather have a group of 20 that I trust, than 1000's that I don't.