15-01-2003 03:50									#31
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HT,
That's why I couldn't agree more, the CtP2 system was largely (though not entirely) my idea

Frozzy,
Only 3 days for elections? Too short IMHO. Should be 5. Plus 2-5 for nominations (we could make 2 the minimum in case we need to act fast but allow for more time when it's possible). But we don't have to stop the game for elections, so how long the election process takes doesn't matter too much, as long as they don't take more than 1/2 the term or anything...

	15-01-2003 03:53									#32
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Aiii... I forgot about about nominations

Anyway, my idea was basically the term starts on the same day each month...

However, could early elections be called in? I mean, if you think you would win again, but your unsure if you'll win in 1 weeks time, why not call an early election?

	15-01-2003 04:15									#33
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Well, I guess that's hard to prevent. Anyone can resign at any time and noone can prevent anyone from running for a certain office, so you can simply resign and then nominate yourself again for the following election...

Unless of course we want to explicitly forbid this, but I don't think that's really necessary... (How often would it happen anyway?)

	15-01-2003 04:20									#34
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lets talk about government positions and what they entail here. i started another thread to deal with elections and term length

	16-01-2003 01:10									#35
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I can understand the other positions but can I be ignorent and ask what a juge does. What is all this about cases etc?

	16-01-2003 01:12									#36
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I do of course mean judge.
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	16-01-2003 01:28									#37
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Quickbeam,

The judges inforce the constitution. The constitution is a set of concise rules and regulations each citizen, minister, judge and the president must follow. Any violations of polling rules, violations of ministerial practise can be complained about by a citizen, and the court will take it and decide what punishment (if any) will be carried out.

	16-01-2003 02:48									#38
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Judges together form the Court:

quote: The Court is constituted to rule upon: contested disputes involving legal interpretation, validity of polls and elections, violations of the Constitution, or any other legal dispute involving the game.

In the CtP2DG, the Court has been used for 5 major things already: it organized and oversaw 2 elections, it oversaw the impeachment procedure of a dissappeared official and on 2 occassions it ruled upon the validity of polls. On top of that, it has provided the other players with guidelines on what to do on several occassions. And our game has only been going on for 3 weeks or so...

	16-01-2003 04:11									#39
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As a judge in that game citizens will sometimes come to me with potential cases and ask for some guidance. if they had filed a case for all of them we would have had six or seven cases questioning the actions of the government in relationship to the constitution

	17-01-2003 05:43									#40
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I want the job of Minister of Science, or just a subminister of science working with the minister of domestic affairs.

You know me science makes me cracy

	17-01-2003 05:52									#41
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BerXpert the rabbit scientist

I guess that Domestic Affairs is your catagory

	17-01-2003 07:30									#42
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You mean Infrastructure. I would like to take Domestic Affairs. And I would gladly support berXperts platform if he would do the same for me. Perhaps we could even form the Rabbit Party ber

	17-01-2003 11:41									#43
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we need to define the two positions exactly before we can really start nominations, elections, etc, etc. I just rewrote a sizable junk of the CtP2 constitution (hasn't been discussed or anything yet though) I think it would probably fit this game very well.

the present CtP2 constitution: http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=71347
my revised version of the CtP2 constitution: http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=74289

	17-01-2003 14:19									#44
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I nominate as Imperial city name suggester

	17-01-2003 17:25									#45
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Thanks for answering my question

	18-01-2003 08:12									#46
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I nominate as permanent undersecretary to
the junior cabinet position of Minister of
Information, Communications and Propaganda.
As a lifetime civil servant, I will of course, be free
from any real scrutiny of my activities, and will be
given a modest salary and expense account

	18-01-2003 09:36									#47
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everyone wants to start playing, but i don't see a whole lot of work to get the game set up. What exactly is the president allowed to do? who is in charge of public works? who takes care of city improvements? what goverment position covers trade, diplomacy, or science? Before we can start, stuff like that needs to be decided.

	18-01-2003 10:03									#48
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I assumed we would adopt the constitution from ctp2dg with a few ajustments. After reading over some of the acticles it seems it would work for ctp too.

	18-01-2003 10:50									#49
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yeh it looks good to me but we would need someone to reright it for ctp1. Theres some things in it ewe dont have in ctp. namly things like city swap. Bummer one of the things Il; ike in ctp2

	18-01-2003 11:11									#50
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quote: Originally posted by geoffrey arnold we would need someone to reright it for ctp1.

It just so happens that the constitution is one of my favorite things to play with. But i'm not very familar with CtP, even though I own it, so if someone would be so kind to point me in the right direction as to what needs editing...