13-01-2003 04:11									#1
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I've been away from the game for a while and after reading a cool Tom Clancy book and enduring the interminable wait of Moo3, I decided to try and rule the world again.

Are there any must have utilities/mods/anything anyone would recommend?

	13-01-2003 04:29									#2
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Make sure you have the most up-to-date patch... 1.29 for basic Civ3, and 1.14 for PTW.

	13-01-2003 05:33									#3
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Back for more punishment, huh?

The big news since you were gone is that PTW was, as many predicted, filled with bugs, needed patches, and the Multi-Player didn't work!! Some minor Single Player improvements (superficial ones) were added with PTW. All that for "just" thirty bucks!! Typical of Firaxis.

Why not try Europa Universalis?

	13-01-2003 05:44									#4
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Well I was hoping to hear about great mods and tweaks and maps. The patches have fixed so much with the editor, has anyone done anything significant with it?
Are scenarios still not doable?

	13-01-2003 07:38									#5
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Do not listen too much to the poster above you.
Firaxis didn't create a game to fulfill he personnal wishes, so now he's just trying to ruin the fun for the rest of us.

	13-01-2003 08:41									#6
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quote: Originally posted by alva Do not listen too much to the poster above you. Firaxis didn't create a game to fulfill he personnal wishes, so now he's just trying to ruin the fun for the rest of us.

	13-01-2003 08:46									#7
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quote: Originally posted by CWatkins Are scenarios still not doable?

That depends on what you mean by scenarios. There's still no events scripting, if that's what you're after. There's lots of other possibilities though, enough that I'm not inclined right now to list them all.

	13-01-2003 09:14									#8
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I'm not quite aquainted with scenario building in Civ3, but the editor in v1.29 and in PTW are a great improvement over the original version. I couldn't believe there wasn't a zoom function in the original, making large maps practically impossible to design. What the hell were Firaxis thinking??? Thank heavens they corrected this very serious omission.

Anyway, give the editor in v1.29 and/or PTW a try, it is much better.

	13-01-2003 09:23									#9
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I dont really care about the editor, myself. I just want to play the game. Hasnt anyone put the editor to good use though? or made their own modifications without it, to good results. I know theres lots of little things, I was just hoping to hear about few of the best, I guess there arent any.

	13-01-2003 14:39									#10
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besides all the stuff mentioned abovew, I think it's crucial to download certain grpahics files, like thinner roads, but most importantly tiny emoticons next to your people in the luxury page. With a city of size 28 and trying to micromanage the happiness it's impossible to see how many more unhappy people there are than happy people with this. It baffles me that it was not icluded in PTW because it's as old as hell.

	13-01-2003 16:02									#11
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Have you been to the "Civ3-Files" forum? You'll find a lot of interesting things in there.

	13-01-2003 18:11									#12
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Double Your Pleasure is a great mod, IMO, though it entirely changes the game. Completely different CSA's, tech trees, buildings, units, etc.

	13-01-2003 20:28									#13
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quote: Originally posted by CWatkins I dont really care about the editor, myself. I just want to play the game. Hasnt anyone put the editor to good use though? or made their own modifications without it, to good results. I know theres lots of little things, I was just hoping to hear about few of the best, I guess there arent any.

If you're looking for any graphics mods, go for anything done by Sn00py. There's also some interesting things being done over in CivFanatics with multi-unit graphics. Nothing's been posted yet, but it's greating a lot of excitement. Here's a link:

Multi Unit Graphics

	13-01-2003 21:19									#14
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Hey Willem, that's the second time you posted that link. Do you have info on it?
I started reading the first pages, but then noticed it's more then 20 pages long , call me lazy, but I'm not gonna do that.

You can't download them yet, can you? They look absolutely great.

	13-01-2003 22:24									#15
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quote: Originally posted by alva Hey Willem, that's the second time you posted that link. Do you have info on it? I started reading the first pages, but then noticed it's more then 20 pages long , call me lazy, but I'm not gonna do that. You can't download them yet, can you? They look absolutely great.

Yes, it is rather long isn't it? And it's only been up for a very short time! I don't think I've ever seen a thread fill up so fast. Most of it is just people saying how good they look though.

As to your question, not they aren't available yet. There's going to be a seperate thread for them in the Unit Graphics forum, much like the current Unit Library. Just keep checking there, I don't think it will be to much longer before we start seeing them.

There's also going to be a utility available so that people can create their own, in conjunction with Flicster. Someone named Steph is working on that. He's going to have scads of formations available in his tool.

	13-01-2003 22:44									#16
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I read a part of that (the utility), it's incredible what people sometimes do for a game

If you catch it before, be sure to pm me, I want too that on my screen ASAP

	13-01-2003 23:01									#17
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quote: Originally posted by alva I read a part of that (the utility), it's incredible what people sometimes do for a game If you catch it before, be sure to pm me, I want too that on my screen ASAP

Well I'll try to remember. At any rate, I'll be sure to post a link as soon as there's some units available, unless someone beats me to it.

The utility as well. I was just over there and it sounds like Steph almost has it done. I'm guessing we should start seeing some of them by next week. I hope! They would look so good in the game.

There's also someone working on a Camp graphic, like tents etc., that can be added with any unit in Fortify.flc.

	14-01-2003 01:27									#18
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Hmm...

I have good MOD too.

	14-01-2003 01:33									#19
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quote: I have good MOD too.

Jeez whats with all the vagueness? How bout a name of your mod, a description of what it does and maybe even a link?

	14-01-2003 02:05									#20
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quote: Originally posted by CWatkins Jeez whats with all the vagueness? How bout a name of your mod, a description of what it does and maybe even a link?

I think his mod is named "player1's mod"

	14-01-2003 02:40									#21
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I kinda like mine.

	16-01-2003 20:25									#22
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quote: Originally posted by CWatkins Jeez whats with all the vagueness? How bout a name of your mod, a description of what it does and maybe even a link?

Click on the blue thinghy in his sig

	17-01-2003 08:28									#23
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BTW, not to knowck anyone else's mod, but the AU Mod is insanely great... CWatkins, if you want a CHALLENGE, like playing an expert Strat Forum player (well, almost ), then this one's for you.

	17-01-2003 16:04									#24
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AU does have some really good ideas (which I added into the mod I play).