15-01-2003 15:57									#31
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Civ 3 is miles ahead of the others IMHO.

It's a pity I threaw away both my CTP copies; seeing Locutus keeps defending them 'till the end , I would like to give them another chance.
Not gonna buy them again though

	15-01-2003 19:31									#32
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Civ II MP, hands down best.

	15-01-2003 19:50									#33
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quote: Originally posted by cyclotron7 Civ3 is my favorite. I have CTP, and I find the PW system to be irksome in the extreme, especially since it made pillaging enemy roads, connects, fortresses, etc. useless. It removed an entire facet, pillaging, from the game.

AFAIK, in CTP (or was it 2, or both?) you can even choose exactly what improvement you want to pillage. You can, for instance, pillage the farm and leave the road intact. That's not possible in Civ3, I wish it was. What's really annoying in CtP(2) is, that you can't pillage an improvement until it's completely built.

	15-01-2003 19:54									#34
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quote: SMAC isn't a part of the Civ series.

Call To Power isn't either, smartass

	15-01-2003 20:03									#35
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CTP charts human advancement through historical ages......so it is a civ game, whereas SMAC (although in the same genre), has a sci-fi not a historical setting.

	15-01-2003 22:13									#36
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Tuome,

yeah, yeah, but it's concidered as Civ series member too by the Civ community, unlike SMAC which isn't a Civ game like CtP and CtP2.

	16-01-2003 00:36									#37
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CtP1 is a "Civ" game (Civilization: Call to Power), CtP2 isn't (its just Call to Power II). At least thats what I understand the legal position to be with regards claims to the Civilization name.

	16-01-2003 06:10									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Locutus How? Pillaging is actually a very important part of my strategy in CtP1 as well as in CtP2. In CtP2-MedMod it's even crucial. It's not like PW reserves are infinite or anything, pillaging is no more or less important than in Civ...

No, PW reserves are not unlimited...

But when I pillage a railroad connection, assuming my enemy has some PW points, he just completely rebuilds it in no time at all. Even though my soldiers completely surround the tile, their workers still get in and out unmolested, and finish the work.

Not only is this silly, but it completely takes the value out of pillaging. I can't interfere with a civ's workers anymore; they can apparently repair their great infrastructure without leaving their cities. It's absurd. PW was, indeed, one of the major reasons I gave up CTP.

	16-01-2003 06:12									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Sir Ralph AFAIK, in CTP (or was it 2, or both?) you can even choose exactly what improvement you want to pillage. You can, for instance, pillage the farm and leave the road intact. That's not possible in Civ3, I wish it was. What's really annoying in CtP(2) is, that you can't pillage an improvement until it's completely built.

I don't remember what it was in CTP, but I know you could do that in Civ2. I wish it was in Civ3, too.

	16-01-2003 09:47									#40
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I voted for Civ2 MGE. Although Civ3 PtW is defenitely the best game in the series, Civ2 MGE was by far the greatest strategy game of its time. Even though the premise was the same, IMO it was miles ahead of Civ1, an already untoppable game in itself. Civ3 was an improvement over Civ2, but not as much as Civ2 was over Civ1.

Brian Reynolds, you are my hero. You are also guilty of making the single game/event/passtime which has taken most time out of my life than any other.

	16-01-2003 20:47									#41
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Civ2 MGE

But I must agree with comrade Tassadars first post and Alexnm. Alpha Centauri is more Civ than those games put together.

	17-01-2003 04:33									#42
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Civ 3, Play the world. Give the game a chance, it's alot better than most people give it credit for.

	17-01-2003 06:52									#43
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i gave it a chance, and no, no it's not.

	17-01-2003 07:32									#44
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When did you last play it?

	17-01-2003 12:32									#45
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TKG,

you've been playing so much SMAC that you're very fond of it. Well, that quite explains why you don't find Civ III or PtW as something fun and working, unlike me who finds it fun and working. Why? I'm not really playing only one or several titles, or just one single genre. That's why I'm not bound to any such scepticism.

You old conservative fart.

	18-01-2003 19:53									#46
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quote: CtP1 is a "Civ" game (Civilization: Call to Power), CtP2 isn't (its just Call to Power II). At least thats what I understand the legal position to be with regards claims to the Civilization name.

Yep, Firaxis actually sued Activision because they were originally claiming it to be
Civilization: Call To Power 2. CtP I was fun at start, but the endgame and goverments are really flawed.

	18-01-2003 19:59									#47
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Tuome, ever tried the mods for CtP?

	19-01-2003 06:08									#48
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civ2 mp , bar none

	19-01-2003 06:10									#49
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quote: Originally posted by Solver Tuome, ever tried the mods for CtP?

Christ! Not only did I get Solver to like modded CtP, I got him to promote it. What did I do to that poor boy

	19-01-2003 16:58									#50
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Haha... for the record, Loc, I loved CtP 1 more than other civ games when I tried it first (unmodded), but I admit I was away from CtP 2 for a long time, and missed how the mods are improved .

OT - if you told me how to lower the AI priority for declaring war...

	31-01-2003 09:52									#51
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quote: Originally posted by Rasbelin SMAC isn't a part of the Civ series.

Of course it is. A lot more than the pathetic Civ3.

SMAC is way ahead of Civ1-3.

	31-01-2003 14:37									#52
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Bloody hell JT......long time no post.

I knew some SMAC bashing would lure you out.

	31-01-2003 15:37									#53
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Civ3

	31-01-2003 19:03									#54
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definently Civ2 MGE. can't be any other.

	10-02-2003 03:32									#55
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My choice is CtP2.


Goodies:

Public works, no pesky workers.

Unconventional warfare! Slavers, terrorists, Eco-rangers ("Love Bugs"), Corperate branches, biowarfare!

MUCH less micromanagement than CtP1, Civ2, and Civ3.

Future technology.

Stacked and ranged combat.

	12-02-2003 20:57									#56
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definitely Civ2 MGE

	13-02-2003 10:35									#57
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CTP1 (med mod) is good

All civ games are fun and I play them all,

but CTP2 modded is by far the best of the civ genre.

	22-02-2003 04:38									#58
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quote: Of course it is. A lot more than the pathetic Civ3.

He's right. SMac should really be in this poll

That said. I voted Civ 2

	23-02-2003 04:35									#59
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quote: Tuome, ever tried the mods for CtP?

To be honest, not seriously. I played around a bit, but grew tired to it :/

	23-02-2003 04:54									#60
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CTP2 of course