23-02-2003 07:40									#61
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Didn't vote because PtW wasn't on there.

Started with CIV III--never played any of the others. CIV III, while remarkable and fascinating, is no match for PtW. Problems w/ PtW are minor and easily surmountable through the editor. Don't play MP, so don't know about those problems.

Any of you old enough to remember a time before computer games? Those of us who wanted S&T games played the old Avalon Hill board games--and solotaire play met "moding" the board game as you went along.

With more time on my hands than I've had in the last 20 years I went looking for a good S&T game for my computer. All were carp until someone showed me CIV III and I fell in love. Then PtW came out and it was pure lust!

I'm really curious about CIV II, though. If I can find it, I'll buy it.

	23-02-2003 07:43									#62
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PTW is an expansion for Civ3, so you should vote Civ3 anyway. Besdies, you need to break this tie with MGE.

	23-02-2003 08:19									#63
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quote: Originally posted by cyclotron7 PTW is an expansion for Civ3, so you should vote Civ3 anyway. Besdies, you need to break this tie with MGE.

Okay. I went ahead and voted for CIV III.

MGE? Excuse ignorance--I see the phrase but don't know what it means. Managing Graphics Editor? Mostly Gooey Extremes? Manly Girl Elf?

	23-02-2003 16:34									#64
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Multiplayer Gold Edition.

	24-02-2003 03:03									#65
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The greatest Civ game is still to be made.

But in the meantime Civ2MGE will do.

	24-02-2003 08:55									#66
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Civ2MGE, because of the horribly addicting scenarios, obviously....and well, Civ was a classic but I didn't play it as much, while Civ 3 is greater than all of them for SP of the standard game, but the lack of scenario support (other than limited modding) makes it inferior IMHO.

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	24-02-2003 22:49									#67
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quote: Originally posted by CapTVK The greatest Civ game is still to be made.

Uh, but weren't you just saying in the other thread that Civ4 would not happen?

If the greatest Civ game is still to be made, but nobody will make it, then...

	24-02-2003 22:57									#68
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Hehe he means his baby, Freeciv.

	24-02-2003 23:11									#69
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Oh, ok. Fair enough.

	24-02-2003 23:15									#70
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Order of top games, in my book:

CtP II, as Modded
PtW
Civ 3
CtP II, Vanilla
Civ: CtP

Never played: Civ, Civ Net, Civ II

From the stand point of managing my empire, I prefer the CTP II's Public Works over micromanaging Civ 3/PtW's workers, and find that automating the workers to be a poor substitute except for specific tasks like cleaning up pollution or building a road to a specific city (otherwise, they always seem to stumble into another civ's borders). That said, from the aggressor's view point, during battle I like being able to halt enemy's public works by capturing their workers.

	27-02-2003 06:06									#71
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CTP is very good!

PS: ColdWizard, I have liked much your to avatar.

	01-03-2003 12:54									#72
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quote: Originally posted by cyclotron7 Uh, but weren't you just saying in the other thread that Civ4 would not happen? If the greatest Civ game is still to be made, but nobody will make it, then...

Cyclotron,

Why do you do seem to believe the greatest Civ game will be called Civ4? The greatest Civ game will be something as radical and inventive as the original. If it ever comes it certainly won't be called Civ4.

	01-03-2003 13:05									#73
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike Hehe he means his baby, Freeciv.

Hehehe, well it could be!

Thanks Dr Spike, but I don't consider Freeciv the " greatest version of Civ of all time" (tm). At least not yet. Right now it's very playable however and the more effort is put in the project now will pay off in the future.

	01-03-2003 18:21									#74
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Well who knows, civ redemption could indeed come from one of the pet projects.

	01-03-2003 18:34									#75
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Civ 2 MGE is leading

	14-03-2003 19:26									#76
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I can understand CtP2, but who can vote Crap to Power I?

	15-03-2003 06:46									#77
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i play civ 2 mge now, but i voted for civ 1 as it was an inspired, groundbreaking, genre-defining game .......

	25-03-2003 08:16									#78
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those who know me from the Civ 2 forum, know i can really get into micromanaging I've tried CtP II, but find the PW rather annoying. Civ I was really groundbreaking and almost voted for it as i think i may still have more hrs logged in Civ I than i do Civ II, but in the end chose Civ II (MGE by default), as there is so much more that can be done in Civ II than Civ I.

	26-03-2003 04:32									#79
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I haven't played Civ2 in ages, but the WW2 Europe scenario was great.

I have't looked, but are there any good WW2 scenarios for Civ3?

	26-03-2003 04:43									#80
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quote: Originally posted by Big Crunch I haven't played Civ2 in ages, but the WW2 Europe scenario was great. I have't looked, but are there any good WW2 scenarios for Civ3?

It is practically impossible to make a WW2 scenario--or any historical scenario, for that matter--in Civ3 as it stands, since you can't set diplomatic relations in the scenario editor

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	26-03-2003 21:59									#81
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Civ 2, although I never played CTP so I couldnt comment on that.

	27-03-2003 22:05									#82
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quote: Originally posted by Henrik Civ 2 MGE is leading

as it should be

	27-03-2003 22:09									#83
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Indeed, I yet have to find anything better

	28-03-2003 15:25									#84
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Civ III because of the best AI.

	30-03-2003 03:10									#85
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I voted civ III, but it seems that there are many more people who posted their praise for civ II MGE than civ III even though the vote is quote close. I wonder what this says. Anyway...

I prefer civ III for:

• Luxuries
  
• Much, Much improved AI
  
• Bombardment
  
• Better Trade
  
• Gold supporting units and settlers/workers require no food
  
• Worker units
  
• Selling/trading cities
  
• Challenges when wonder bullding
  
• Resources appear later (more realistic)
  
• Stacking units
  
• Borders!!!
  
• Better diplomacy
  

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	01-04-2003 11:35									#86
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Civ 3. I must have played Civ 2 every day for 3 years, but as soon as I got Civ 3 I never touched Civ 2 again. I love the idea of culture, I love the borders, I love the fact that different civs are actually different, I love the UUs, I love the improved graphics, I love the fact that you can raze cities, capture workers and artillery, I love the fact that you can't conquer the world with a Howitzer army, I love bombardment, I love that your whole stack doesn't die with one loss, I love that computer civs can't sneak a settler two squares from your capital and found new city, I love the updated AI, I love the new trading system, I love the fact that there are no superpowerful caravans/spies/ Fundamentalist government.....

I loved Civ 2 in its time, but I think that Civ 3 PTW is far superior. I will personally never go back to Civ 2.

	02-04-2003 09:15									#87
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Civ 2 (never had MGE, why wasn't normal civ 2 included in the poll?) was the best, due to the ability ot make great scenerios. Red front is a classic.

Civ 3 certainly has several imporvements, but honetly, i would have been happy if Civ 3 had just been AC reworked to fit an earth setting: too many of Ac's better ideas were ignored.

	16-04-2003 16:16									#88
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Civ II MGE is more competitive than Civ II.

	17-04-2003 01:23									#89
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hi ,

, civ 2 MP gold still leads , followed closely by civ 3 , .....

so that means that the other games are not looked at as true civ games , ..........

have a nice day

	17-04-2003 03:49									#90
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I find it rather amusing that CivNet has one vote.