13-01-2003 23:01									#1
	Utterly revolting Australian anti-smoking ad. Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

Do you people "who live down under" have seen it?

Isn't it terminally disgusting?

The one with the heart and the artery and that ooze coming out of it?


I had to light one up just to relax!


Anyway,
do you think that such "shocking value" ads are any effective?

	13-01-2003 23:02									#2
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What? They don't have "If you smoke, you support terrorism" ads?

	13-01-2003 23:03									#3
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The ad was actually the terrorist in that case

	13-01-2003 23:05									#4
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ooops 3rd thread, sorry forgot

erase one of the others if you please and kindly forgive me

	14-01-2003 00:08									#5
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Smoking is utterly revolting, so the ad is appropriate.

	14-01-2003 00:10									#6
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Not if it doesn't help any?

	14-01-2003 00:11									#7
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IIRC, cartons of cigarettes on Canada now (or will soon) include graphic pictures of smoking-diseases next to the warning badge...

	14-01-2003 00:12									#8
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There is also an EU law about that that will come into effect in the next years.

	14-01-2003 00:14									#9
	Tired of ads?

The best stop-smoking ads I've seen are the ones where people dying from cancer talk and beg people to quit smoking.

Particularly powerful is the one with the 50 year old waitress, who never smoked herself, but worked hard in a restaurant for her children all her life and the second-hand smoke is literally killing her.

She doesn't have much more to live. She was crying in the commercial too.

Plus the woman from Edmonton in the commercials who is completely bald, ~40 years old, mother -- dying from cancer again. She was talking about how she's able to pick the music for her funeral and all that because she knows how she's going to die and when, and begs people to quit smoking...

If those don't impact you, you should seek help.

	14-01-2003 00:15									#10
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I like the one with the dancing cigarette that says, "Please don't burn me!"

	14-01-2003 00:17									#11
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 Not if it doesn't help any?

It helps me. Thanks to such imagery, I've stayed far away from smoking.

	14-01-2003 00:47									#12
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I find the ads with the more immediate impact work better. I can't imagine being 40 but I can imagine feeling fitter and being able to breath and run and stuff. So I quit.

	14-01-2003 01:01									#13
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Smoking is filthy.

And for some reason ... many people of my age are doing it again ... cause it's cool ! Yuk ... 40% of students at my school smoke, mainly the good looking girls.

	14-01-2003 01:10									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Grrr Smoking is filthy. And for some reason ... many people of my age are doing it again ... cause it's cool ! Yuk ... 40% of students at my school smoke, mainly the good looking girls.

mmmhhh... licking one hot assed ash tray...

	14-01-2003 02:57									#15
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I hate these ad's too, paiktis.
I don't smoke, so why should I have to put up with them.

The same applies to tampon ad's, but at least they usually look good.

	14-01-2003 03:23									#16
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quote: Originally posted by MattyBoy I hate these ad's too, paiktis. I don't smoke, so why should I have to put up with them. The same applies to tampon ad's, but at least they usually look good.

There is now some evidence that the ads are working, even among young people.

There is an ad for a type of toilet paper that annoys me. The advertizer claims that it is moist and that it leaves your butt feeling cleaner. The commercial features various people wiggling their butts around. Having an ad that features kids in skimpy bathing suits wiggling their little butts at the audience smacks of sexualizing children to me.

The toilet paper ad with the stupid bears and ducks who assume ecstatic expressions while pooping bothers me too.

	14-01-2003 03:28									#17
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Strangelove, I've seen that add and found it a tad disturbing as well.

-Arrian

	14-01-2003 06:15									#18
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Smoking is revolting. Those ads are revolting. Seems strange to me that they don't work around where I am.

Former classmates of the school I went to were smoking the first time I saw them again the year after school had ended. Most of the people at the TAFE I went to would always go outside and light up during the breaks. Even at shopping centres, where there's NO SMOKING signs everywhere, its impossible to escape the second hand smoke.

I find it a tad selfish of these smokers to be lighting up where non-smokers are going to have to put up with their second-hand smoke.

	14-01-2003 21:12									#19
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But unlike some, many people are not "scared" or "intimidated" into doing something and to them I doubt these ads work.

I had to light one up just to relax.

Also if it is so in your face, you don't care. You think" hell if it's so ****ed up, I might as well have another one".


It would be interesting to see some studies on the impact of these sort of ads.
They certaintly did not work for me, apart from ruining my apetite for like 10 minutes.

	14-01-2003 21:56									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Arrian Strangelove, I've seen that add and found it a tad disturbing as well. -Arrian

No wonder that "Operation Ore", the sting that netted Peter Townshend, also nabbed 1300 other people. They were subverted by the toilet paper industry. First they were shown the butts of really hot chicks, then the butts of perpubertal kids, then back to the hot chicks, then back to the kids and so on and so on over and over again. Evicerntly there must be some data showing that pedophiles use a lot of toilet paper.

	14-01-2003 21:59									#21
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 But unlike some, many people are not "scared" or "intimidated" into doing something and to them I doubt these ads work. I had to light one up just to relax. Also if it is so in your face, you don't care. You think" hell if it's so ****ed up, I might as well have another one". It would be interesting to see some studies on the impact of these sort of ads. They certaintly did not work for me, apart from ruining my apetite for like 10 minutes.

Studies in the US show that they're beginning to work, even on teens. Initial studies tended o show a negative effect, but apparently repitiion ad infinitum breaks down the barriers.
Next we're going to take on resistance to Turkey joining the EU. Your side is doomed!

	14-01-2003 22:13									#22
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 But unlike some, many people are not "scared" or "intimidated" into doing something and to them I doubt these ads work. ... They certaintly did not work for me, apart from ruining my apetite for like 10 minutes.

If fear doesn't work, maybe disgust will...

I wish i had a pick of my dad to show you, with the target that the doctors painted on his torso to know where to aim during the radiotherapy.

Didn't work, by the way.

	14-01-2003 23:09									#23
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It wouldn't work either I'm afraid.

There are some people like me who
_can't be intimidated into quiting
_can't be disgusted
but
know full well the ills smoking can produce.

I think there is no will to quit because we feel no ill effects (for the moment of course) and because it is so damn pleasurable to smoke.

So I think one other approach should be to show us methods of how to quit it.

We know it's ill producing habit, we want to quit (sort of)
so better to tell educated methods as to how.

And leave all that "scary" crap for small children.

	14-01-2003 23:11									#24
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i.e. instead of showing somebody puring a glass of tar on some lungs,

show proven methods to distract oneself when wanting to smoke.

Such as begleri.

	14-01-2003 23:23									#25
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and for thsoe who dont know what a begleri or komboloi is (although they are not 100% the same)

here's one.

the perfect antismoking tool. forget dangerous drugs

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