14-01-2003 01:43									#1
	Official: Foreign Affairs: Give Polymorphic Software to the Morganites? Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

The Morganites are currently researching Polymorphic Software, a topic our Peacekeeping scientists well understand. Should we share our knowledge with them, in the hopes that they then are able to research something useful to us? If we don't want to give technology away, we could trade it for their vote in the Planetary Council, or for a nominal sum of energy credits.

This poll will be open for two days.

	14-01-2003 01:52									#2
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I'm not a citizen, but something struck me as odd: In SMAC (the version I have, at least) it's not possible to offer a specific tech, only to offer tech in general (either as a gift or as an offer for something you want). (edit, removed small spoiler)

Another thing: without all the commlink frequencies, you can't ask for support in the planetary councils. Granted, the last frequency can be acquired from the Gaians, but whether that's going to be done hasn't been decided yet.

Last edited by Cedayon on 14-01-2003 at 07:15

	14-01-2003 02:24									#3
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For the Planetary Council, the idea would be to trade him the tech as soon as we received Miriam's commlink fequency, if he hadn't discovered it yet.

If we gave the technology as a gift, we would also give him other technologies if necessary. After all, the point of the trade would be so that Morgan can research something unknown to us.

	14-01-2003 02:53									#4
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sure, give it to him. gift it because since we're pacted he'll vote for us anyway, and this way he'll be a bit more receptive (plus, since he's researching it, it should be in the gifting screen)

and cedayon, that's playing ahead which is prohibited for us, and though allowed for you, could you still try not to post spoilers in the future?
(granted, that's not exactly critical knowledge, but my point stands )

	14-01-2003 03:29									#5
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I thought the rule was that "it's not playing ahead if you don't end the turn", or at least that's what I've seen others say around here. Is that not true?

	14-01-2003 04:53									#6
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I proposed this once before while I was DFA, and the consensus was that since it revealed information that didn't change and was irreversible, it constituted playing ahead.

	14-01-2003 04:57									#7
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Oh, and yes, I think we should gift it to them.

	14-01-2003 07:45									#8
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quote: Originally posted by GeneralTacticus I proposed this once before while I was DFA, and the consensus was that since it revealed information that didn't change and was irreversible, it constituted playing ahead.

Understood, I apologize for my ignorance of policy.

As I'm a citizen now, my thoughts on the polled issue: If we intend to remain allied with the Morganites, it's only logical to help them into a position to help us (ie research stuff we don't have and be more powerful an ally in general. We could ask a nominal fee for this, as they aren't hurting for ECs, but I think a gift is just as well.

My only concern is that any technology we give the Morganites could potentially fall into unfriendly hands (Yang's, for instance). I trust, however, that such concerns will be kept in mind in choosing what to reveal to our allies.

	14-01-2003 07:49									#9
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Morgan doesn't even know that the Hive exist.

	14-01-2003 07:58									#10
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Ah, I hadn't checked. There is the possibility that contact could be made, but it does seem pretty unlikely that the tech could make its way to Yang while it still mattered.

	14-01-2003 10:05									#11
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The only way the Hive and Morganites are going to contact each other any time soon is if council is called and everyone gets everyone elses comlink.

And given how much Yang likes Planned.....

Give it to Morgan. Nothing to lose. If we can get a few creds for it too, it's even better.

	14-01-2003 14:47									#12
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great yet another new morganite that has seen the true path welcome cedayon...about the issue just give the damn thing

	14-01-2003 17:12									#13
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Mhh Aint Poly.S the requierment for Artillery?
Wont Morgan screw his economy by building some of this useless junk?
Wont he be better of not getting it ;=)

	14-01-2003 17:15									#14
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He'll get it regardless, and at least he'll be able to work on something more useful. Besides, it is a necessary prerequisite.

	14-01-2003 18:02									#15
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I should note that, according to the current intelligence in the datalinks, Morgan's going to get Poly S. in 3 turns normally... but if we speed up the process he might get to researching something we actually need. Or is he too far behind for 1-2 techs to make that kind of difference?