14-01-2003 06:53									#1
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I just noticed that the President is the LEAST powerful person in the game.

He can't post Senate Bills.

He can't issue orders.

He has the tiny offset of being able to veto stuff, but EVERY minister has that.

This is kind of freaky.

	14-01-2003 07:28									#2
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Quite true. Vote for my (forthcoming) amendment, which will give another (rarely used) power to the Prez.

I think being President is all about prestige in this game. On the other hand, organizing and playing chats is a big responsibility, so the President's post is an important, if not powerful, one.

	14-01-2003 07:51									#3
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Hrm. Being Prez sucks then.



At least he gets to live in the Presidential Mansion.

Thud--correct, prez=prestige & chat-org
(glory and tedious work )

We need to give the President some emergency powers then.

	14-01-2003 07:55									#4
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Nay on the emergency powers! That is, unless it's Aro or Aggie.

For some reason I don't trust Arnelos with those type of powers....although I think that has more to do with the Palpatine avatar than Arnelos himself, but still....

	14-01-2003 10:41									#5
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quote: Originally posted by skywalker I just noticed that the President is the LEAST powerful person in the game. He can't post Senate Bills. He can't issue orders. He has the tiny offset of being able to veto stuff, but EVERY minister has that. This is kind of freaky.

I remember the days when I was Prez... before the NewCon came into effect - no Senate, not nearly as many amendments, chats only lasted 6 or so hours..... those were the days. Lucky I got out before the coup that denied the President everything but Mod status.

	14-01-2003 12:17									#6
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Skywalker,

That may actually beat the irony of the fact that I agree with your argument in Court Case #9 (though I would have argued it rather differently had I been in your shoes)

	14-01-2003 12:23									#7
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People seem to forget that the Old President was a puppet. Had no power whatsoever. The current President decided budget matters (when there is no direct Senate order), decides research, picks his own VP, and takes over for all of the other execs in the chain of command whenever they fail to show up.

Plus he's got veto powers and appoints judges and replacement ministers.

Not a dictator by any stretch of the imagination, but still a big improvement over how it used to be.

--Togas

	14-01-2003 12:53									#8
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I remember when I was President... anything went.

I found that my job was more to make the rules than enact them... Then again, there were no rules, so that's expected...

Hehe, glad I'm not around anymore.

	14-01-2003 16:06									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Trip I remember when I was President... anything went. I found that my job was more to make the rules than enact them... Then again, there were no rules, so that's expected... Hehe, glad I'm not around anymore.

hi ,

yeah , those where great days , .....

so when are you going to be Prez again Trip

as long as UberKruX is going to be SMC its going to be very fine

have a nice day

	14-01-2003 20:37									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Togas People seem to forget that the Old President was a puppet. Had no power whatsoever.

I dunno technically the pres didn't have much power but in practice if he wanted to he could control the whole game. Sometimes I was more of a dictator than a pres what with all the secret meetings, disregarding orders and random renaming of cities that went on. But most of the time I was just a performing monkey.

MWIA on the other hand made Saddam Hussain look like a school teacher. jk.

	14-01-2003 21:27									#11
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quote: Originally posted by OPD I dunno technically the pres didn't have much power but in practice if he wanted to he could control the whole game. Sometimes I was more of a dictator than a pres what with all the secret meetings, disregarding orders and random renaming of cities that went on. But most of the time I was just a performing monkey. MWIA on the other hand made Saddam Hussain look like a school teacher. jk.

OPD, you are in top form!

	15-01-2003 00:49									#13
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Our former Presidents were quite scandalous!

You couldn't get away with it anything like that now, without running the risk of getting impeached.

	15-01-2003 03:28									#14
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I wonder how the Trip-Ninot presidential election would have played out in the court...

	15-01-2003 04:05									#15
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Well, okay, if the emergency powers idea is hated, how's about we give Presidents regular Senator abilities too?

	15-01-2003 04:13									#16
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With the ability to post SENATE BILLS?

I think not!

	15-01-2003 04:27									#17
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Actually, it could be argued that teh President can post bills on the budget and science under Amendment I, if "Misiters" is interpreted to include the president.

	15-01-2003 04:53									#18
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quote: Originally posted by OPD MWIA on the other hand made Saddam Hussain look like a school teacher. jk.

I'm a below average intelligence monkey AND more insane in the brain than the Hussain?

Watch out world - when I get back to NZ I may have more free time to post here.



Or run for things.

	15-01-2003 09:48									#19
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quote: Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt I'm a below average intelligence monkey AND more insane in the brain than the Hussain? Watch out world - when I get back to NZ I may have more free time to post here. Or run for things.

hi ,

great , together with trip and uber thou shall rule the world

now that would be the day , ......

have a nice day

panag > gives more banana for future campaigns ( wink )

	15-01-2003 11:04									#20
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quote: Watch out world - when I get back to NZ I may have more free time to post here.

Yet another Kiwi invasion into the great land of Oz


** (Its a NZ-OZ thing .... A love-hate relationship) **

	15-01-2003 12:01									#21
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quote: Originally posted by panag hi , yeah , those where great days , ..... so when are you going to be Prez again Trip as long as UberKruX is going to be SMC its going to be very fine have a nice day

I'm glad you enjoyed those great times as much as I did Panag!

I fear my presence here in the Civ 3 DG is no longer necassary... I've moved on to the new battlefields of the PTW DG, where there's more intrigue, mystery and glory to be had.

	16-01-2003 20:16									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Trip I'm glad you enjoyed those great times as much as I did Panag! I fear my presence here in the Civ 3 DG is no longer necassary... I've moved on to the new battlefields of the PTW DG, where there's more intrigue, mystery and glory to be had.

hi ,

well this one has to be finished first , .......

well the first days really where something , just remember those monkeys screaming true the jungle

and those bananas back then , before polution arrived

have a nice day

	16-01-2003 21:06									#23
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Panag, why don't you join the PTWDG as well?

	16-01-2003 21:13									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Shiber Panag, why don't you join the PTWDG as well?

hi ,

allready done a long time ago , ......

have a nice day

	16-01-2003 21:14									#25
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But you don't have a team, how could you be in the game?

	16-01-2003 21:19									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Trip But you don't have a team, how could you be in the game?

hi ,

sssstt , its panags team

have a nice day

	16-01-2003 22:04									#27
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What are you talking about?

	17-01-2003 10:56									#28
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only civgroup hes in is a mac icon?

Panag, teams would love to have a C3DG regulars for their teams. You should join one.


All these prez reminicing about their good old days... we need a president's club thread. Let them sit down in round table drinking wine and smoking fine cigars talking about their days..

	17-01-2003 11:02									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Calc II All these prez reminicing about their good old days... we need a president's club thread. Let them sit down in round table drinking wine and smoking fine cigars talking about their days..

This isn't a half-bad idea.

EDIT: I just realized that I used an idiom there that might be somewhat confusing to anyone translating it

	17-01-2003 13:03									#30
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You have to include VPs as well in the club. I can't wait to see Trip "talking" again with Timeline