15-01-2003 14:29									#1
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The doted lines are the medium score (the one showed in the map) an the normal lines are the ones calculated from the F8 screen.

The last 25 turns:



The last 50 turns:



The comple history:



For the importance of the historical moment I'm keeping the graphs from the turn in which Lux was defeated.

The last 25 turns:



The last 50 turns:



The comple history:

Last edited by OliverFA on 14-03-2003 at 03:52

	15-01-2003 14:37									#2
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Ops! I apologize for the comments being in Spanish! I guess I was too tired yesterday at night and changed the language automatically without even noticing it.

Well, I can always say I was RPing

Anyway you can use it to learn a few words. For example:
Pixels is Pixels
Points is Puntos

	15-01-2003 15:59									#3
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Interesting oliverfa

Maybe could you resample your images, so they'll be a bit smaller and better fit the forum pages ?

	15-01-2003 16:40									#4
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You are right Astrologix. Thanks for your sugestion

They were double size because this way I could put the green "end of turn" line on one pixel row and still have one other row with the final sizes of every turn, but probably here you don't need to see the real pixels size. I supose you trust in what I say.

I will resample them to a lower size this night when I translate them to English.

	15-01-2003 16:50									#5
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Good attempt Oliverfa.

This could confirm the score analysis, or give explanations for variances.

Btw I have completed the score analysis for Spain. It works perfectly with the drop of the decimals !

	15-01-2003 21:12									#6
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I think the histograph in Civ 3 is confusing. I preferred the Civ 1 histograph which showed a normal graph. Is there any way to present it as a normal graph?

	15-01-2003 21:16									#7
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Of course señor Pikesfan. As you can see the real scores (not exact, but very aproximate) can be infered from the historigraph. Once we have the scores for each turn we just have to plot them with Excel. I can do that.

	15-01-2003 21:33									#8
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Good work Oliverfa, I wonder what is happening to lux: their power is increasing quickly. I believe they are preparing a mass attack on some civ. Keep in mind that that civ can also be the Spanish civ. The Japanese have played a same sort of game to the Americans just before the attack on Pearl Harbor: first seeking for peace, but cancelling all negotiations on the day before the attack. I have seen no reply of them in the three day's I've been away on a tradingjourney to Pamplona. Don't trust Lux before we've signed that alliance and keep alert even then.

Aidun Cian

	16-01-2003 06:43									#9
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Their power is not necessarily increasing very rapidly, ND's power is merely declining. Obviously their power is growing, but not at an extraordinary rate.

	16-01-2003 10:02									#10
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You were right, Señor OliverFA-it turned out great. I agree that the pace of the game has allowed our intelligence to flourish.

Perhaps, there is a way to consolidate it for us to be able to gleen more information from the game.

	16-01-2003 14:23									#11
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I've changed IN THE FIRST POST the previous images taken from the F8 screen by two plots made by excel. The first one shows all the ages, and the second one has the first uninteresting ages removed.

If you want the other images back just ask, but I think these are more informative.

Here is the source data:

code:

ND		GoW		RP		Lux	
 Points	Pixels	Points	Pixels	Points	Pixels	Points	P
ixels
0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
10	402	10	402	10	402	0	0
10.07	302	10.07	302	10	300	10.07	302
10.07	302	10.07	302	10	300	10.07	302
10.07	302	10.07	302	10	300	10.07	302
10.07	302	10.07	302	10	300	10.07	302
10.07	302	10.07	302	10	300	10.07	302
10.07	302	10.07	302	10	300	10.07	302
10.07	302	10.07	302	10	300	10.07	302
10.07	302	10.07	302	10	300	10.07	302
10.07	302	10.07	302	10	300	10.07	302
23	352	22.87	350	23	352	9.93	152
23.15	302	23.15	302	23	300	23.15	302
23.15	302	23.15	302	23	300	23.15	302
23	298	24.08	312	23	298	23	298
23	298	24.08	312	23	298	23	298
31.16	364	23.97	280	25	292	23.12	270
31.17	374	24.17	290	22	264	23.17	278
31.17	374	24.17	290	22	264	23.17	278
31.17	374	24.17	290	22	264	23.17	278
31.17	374	24.17	290	22	264	23.17	278
32.57	340	27.98	292	32	334	23.19	242
32.03	330	27.95	288	33	340	24.07	248
32.05	336	27.85	292	33	346	21.94	230
32.05	336	27.85	292	33	346	21.94	230
30	320	28.13	300	33	352	21.94	234
30.93	328	27.91	296	33	350	21.87	232
30.93	328	27.91	296	33	350	21.87	232
30.96	326	27.73	292	34	358	21.84	230
41.05	396	27.99	270	34	328	21.98	212
39.73	366	28.22	260	33	304	29.96	276

code:

Turn	Year	ND	GoW	RP	Lux	
1	4000BC	0	0	0	0	
2	3950BC	10	10	10	0	
3	3900BC	10	10	10	10	
4	3850BC	10	10	10	10	
5	3800BC	10	10	10	10	
6	3750BC	10	10	10	10	
7	3700BC	10	10	10	10	
8	3650BC	10	10	10	10	
9	3600BC	10	10	10	10	
10	3550BC	10	10	10	10	
11	3500BC	10	10	10	10	
12	3450BC	23	23	23	10	border expansion ND, GoW, RP
13	3400BC	23	23	23	23	border expansion Lux
14	3350BC	23	23	23	23	
15	3300BC	23	24	23	23	
16	3250BC	23	24	23	23	
17	3200BC	31	24	25	23	New city ND
18	3150BC	31	24	22	23	
19	3100BC	31	24	22	23	
20	3050BC	31	24	22	23	
21	3000BC	31	24	22	23	
22	2950BC	33	28	32	23	New city RP. New city GoW?
23	2900BC	32	28	33	24	
24	2850BC	32	28	33	22	
25	2800BC	32	28	33	22	
26	2750BC	30	28	33	22	
27	2710BC	31	28	33	22	
28	2670BC	31	28	33	22	
29	2630BC	31	28	34	22	
30	2590BC	41	28	34	22	New city ND
31	2550BC	40	28	33	30	New city Lux

Last edited by OliverFA on 16-01-2003 at 17:31

	22-01-2003 01:22									#12
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*bump* Graphs actualized up to 2310BC

	22-01-2003 01:34									#13
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We are the best, Señor Oliverfa

Thanks for your great work !

	22-01-2003 01:51									#14
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Tommy likey

great work, Señor Oliverfa

	22-01-2003 01:59									#15
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This is awesome, Oliverfa

	22-01-2003 02:39									#16
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We appear as second to ND, but we are first. It is time to build some workers that we need, and it will help not becoming first too soon, without weakening our position.

	22-01-2003 03:00									#17
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Is it possible to include all 7 civs/teams in this report?

	22-01-2003 03:14									#18
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The score analysis does that, but without the double check with the graphs.

	31-01-2003 20:56									#19
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*bump* actualized to 2030BC

Comments:

GoW seems to have created a settler this last turn.
I wonder what happens with Lux and ND. Their scores haven't gone down for a lot of turns. No workers, no settlers?

	10-02-2003 20:49									#20
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* bump *

	16-02-2003 21:21									#21
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Now actualized with the graphs that show the rise (and fall ) of the Luxan Empire.

	17-02-2003 01:01									#22
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Excelent. Thanks oliverfa.

	17-02-2003 01:17									#23
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yep, great work, Señor Oliverfa

	22-02-2003 23:27									#24
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And now you can see the fatality of the Lux destiny...

(Graphs actualized to 1600 BC)

	08-03-2003 23:33									#25
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Almost a month since the last actualization. Now is a time to do that.

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* bump *

	23-03-2003 17:07									#27
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Information actualized to 1100BC. I would like to highlight the fact that despite the great effort put in the building of our army we are still the civilization with the most score in the world. That puts us in a very good position.

Also, our culture has grown during the last turns and now we are the second civ in the world by culture and have almost the same score than ND, which will no doubt help Santiago and Saragossa. Anyway a new temple in Vigo would help this cultural war, at the same time than it gives the gems to our borders.

	26-03-2003 03:59									#28
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Since I haven't been able to post the scores and culture for the last turns, I put all of them together now.

code:


S  C  O  R  E

       GS  ND  GoW RP Vox Lego
1200BC 105 113  84 105 74 100
1175BC 105 114  83 105 79 101
1150BC 107 112  79 106 76 101
1125BC 108 110  80 107 75 112
1100BC 118 118  90 119 74 111
1075BC 120 118  93 128 76 113
1050BC 121 133 103 130 88 113

C  U  L  T  U  R  E

       GS  ND  GoW RP  Vox Lego
1200BC 126 217 199 203 210 128
1175BC 128 226 205 211 217 130
1150BC 129 232 213 219 223 131
1125BC 131 241 219 227 229 133
1100BC 133 249 225 235 235 135
1075BC 136 257 229 243 239 138
1050BC 138 270 236 251 247 140

	29-03-2003 17:51									#29
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Graphs updated to 975BC

	06-04-2003 23:40									#30
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Updated to 800BC.

I had been experimenting with a graph showing the relative power in %, but didn't like the results. They don't give any interesting information and look like the graphs in the game. So I decided to add to mean like instead. The violet line is the mean of all the team scores. At the beginning it includes Lux, but once it was disbanked it's the mean of the only 6 surviving teams.