17-01-2003 08:43									#1
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Of course, one simply cannot say that they are a true Harry Potter fan unless they have read the upcoming lines from the new book, and have analyzed the title of the upcoming book in depth.
This is an amazing series and I am amazingly psyched to hear that the final book will be coming out this Summer.
What I am particularly excited about is exactly how Rowling's writing will have matured since her fourth venture. I think that the opening lines have been overlooked by most fans in favor of the lines in which Dumbledore says that he is going to tell Harry some information which has been denied him. I think that the word choice and aesthetic sense in these few opening lines reveal that the rest of the book will be more intricate writing.
I also feel that the end of the fourth book reveals that this next book will deal quite a deal more with the wizarding community that fights Voldemort, and that Harry may very well become involved in that to a certain extent. I sense a sort of pattern in the Harry Potter books, then. The books which are about sort of "object quests", the sorceror's stone, the chamber of secrets, to a lesser extent thegoblet of fire, are relevant to Harry's development, and fun, but I feel that as the series progresses in the titles and in subject matter the goals will be less object oriented and more character oriented. The Prisoner of Azkaban took the series to new heights, and now with the order of the pheonix, something which I am sure will not be an "object", I think we will again see a more mature, character-oriented book.
Any other thoughts?

	17-01-2003 09:56									#2
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When the books are done, this could be made into a really huge RPG. Really, really big.

Anyway...

I am looking forward to this book also. I wonder if after the 7th book is done she will write sequels and prequels, etc?

	17-01-2003 09:59									#3
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No, she doesn't want to be 'typecast'. She'll probably go onto to other types of stories.

	17-01-2003 10:04									#4
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She said that she'll stop writing after the seventh is finished, but I'm willing to bet that that's just the pressure of giving birth and writing a fifth book at the same time.
Writers never really stop writing. Getting published on the other hand...

	17-01-2003 10:07									#5
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I think you are right about the larger community of sorcerors (pro and anti Voldemort) being an issue much more. The last one definitely set up for that. With the council of people together. There is also a definite power struggle coming up between Dumbledore and the powers at the Bureau. Ron's Dad will get caught up in it. Also, of course, Ron and Harry will continue to notice girls more and to start to develop a little more confidence to deal with them. (Harry's first kiss?)


Watching Ron and Harry grow up reminds me of watching Stew and Iaiaiaian grow up. The fighting over Sarah, etc. Just hope that Harry does not have to go through a permaban.

	17-01-2003 10:11									#6
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Naw... I think they are a bit more sophisticated than Stew and Iain .

	17-01-2003 10:17									#7
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Definitely.
I'd love to get to know more about Hermione's parents too. I haven't heard anybody say this, but I think that at the end of his fifth year, it might be cool if Harry spends his summer as a guest of the Grangers'.
I think she might do this, or something else, because I think that she might feel that she should have at least a couple of important muggle characters...

	17-01-2003 10:24									#8
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So do you think Ron and Hermione are going to end up together?

	17-01-2003 10:25									#9
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i liked the first book..i just read it..so let me get through the others and then i'll join you...

	17-01-2003 10:30									#10
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quote: So do you think Ron and Hermione are going to end up together?

Well duh .

	17-01-2003 10:34									#11
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they might...
at this point, I'm not ruling anything out or in except for the facts!

	17-01-2003 10:37									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui quote: So do you think Ron and Hermione are going to end up together? Well duh .

That would be like Iaiaiain and Sarah ending up together. Or maybe I should turn Stew into Ron.

	17-01-2003 14:30									#13
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I've read the first 4 books twice now, but I think I'll start the first one again a week before the 5th comes out. That way I should be able to read them all straight through.

Not only have each of the books got longer each time, they have also got more 'adult' in tone - and no I don't mean they're turning into porn.

The end of Goblet of Fire was one of the most tense and exciting things I've read for a long while. The prospect of Rowling turning it up a notch with an nearly 800 page fifth installment is very exciting.

Do we think that a main character will die between now and the 7th book? (I know that's a long way off, but still....)
By main character I mean Harry, Ron, Hermione, their families, Hagrid, Dumbledore and Sirius I suppose. The good guys.

	17-01-2003 16:07									#14
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HP5 is already the Number One best seller at Amazon.com!

I gotta buy stock in that company! Any business that, for the next five months will be selling a book that does not yet exist, has got to make money.

Zkribbler prediction: It will come out that Snape was madly in love with Lily Potter. Lily's rejection of Snape in favor of James is the source of Snape's hatred of Harry.

	17-01-2003 19:32									#15
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AOL Time warner owns the rights to Harry Potter and the stock is a dog right now (mostly thanks to the AOL side).

	17-01-2003 19:47									#16
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quote: Originally posted by FrustratedPoet Not only have each of the books got longer each time, they have also got more 'adult' in tone - and no I don't mean they're turning into porn.

I've always thought that this was a deliberate literary device to match Harry's age (and presumably the age of children who are reading the books when they first come out) with reasonably appropriate levels of violence and sexuality.

One can only imagine what will be in book seven when Harry will be 17.

	17-01-2003 20:04									#17
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I think you're right Spencer, that's what I had always assumed too.
We'll have to wait and see if the trend continues in the next book.

	17-01-2003 22:09									#18
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quote: Originally posted by SpencerH AOL Time warner owns the rights to Harry Potter and the stock is a dog right now (mostly thanks to the AOL side).

That's not what the Wall Street Journal reported about the owners of the book rights. US publisher jumped 9%. British publisher jumped 4%. Perhaps AOL-TW didn't move because the stock is so much bigger and beacause the profits are heavier on the book side than for liscenced other applications. (I.e. the new book doesn't make movie tie-ins and games and such change much. Also, the deal negotiated may not be very sweet for AOL-TW.)

	17-01-2003 23:26									#19
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The book profits from Harry Potter are a drop in the bucket of AOL time-Warner. Maybe you havent been keeping track of the stock. With the AOL-side losses and huge charges the companies been hit with (not to mention investigations into their accounting) you'd be better off investing in Enron. There was even talk of dropping the 'AOL' from the company name to try to regain investor confidence.

EDIT I'm not sure that AOL Time Warner actually owns the book rights (since I dont know if they own Scholastic Trade, the American Publisher of the Harry Potter books) but they do own everything else (movies merchandising) so far as I can tell.

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	17-01-2003 23:44									#20
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quote: Originally posted by SpencerH The book profits from Harry Potter are a drop in the bucket of AOL time-Warner. Maybe you havent been keeping track of the stock. With the AOL-side losses and huge charges the companies been hit with (not to mention investigations into their accounting) you'd be better off investing in Enron. There was even talk of dropping the 'AOL' from the company name to try to regain investor confidence. EDIT I'm not sure that AOL Time Warner actually owns the book rights (since I dont know if they own Scholastic Trade, the American Publisher of the Harry Potter books) but they do own everything else (movies merchandising) so far as I can tell.

AOL does not own the book profits.

	18-01-2003 02:27									#21
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Can I just say that last night I was reading Goblet of Fire again, (this is the third time, and I'm loving it even more than the first two times) and this time when I read the revelation that Neville's parents were tortured to insanity very nearly brought me to tears, and also filled me with a very real, visceral rage.
THAT is quality reading. The fourth book is now officially my favorite.

	18-01-2003 02:30									#22
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Only God knows what happens to you when you read of Frodo's struggle with the power of the ring

	18-01-2003 02:30									#23
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Quality reading perhaps... but was it quality writing? Inquiring minds want to know .

	18-01-2003 02:33									#24
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I would have been mad more at Rowling than Voldemort if it hadn't been quality writing...
And no, I don't tear up with Frodo's struggle with the ring. I just get highly engrossed.
I had forgotten about Neville's parents, and this time, the relevation just really hit me for some reason.
It really casts new light on the whole character of Neville. Imagine, having to go to see your parents insane, and having them not recognize you? I wouldn't wish that on anyone...

	18-01-2003 02:38									#25
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Quality writing yes, but perhaps a bit much. I mean, I thought GoF, while being great, was a little...well... big. This one is 30% MORE?! Editor, quick! By this rate she'll have a 2000 page book for the 7th year .

	18-01-2003 02:38									#26
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quote: Originally posted by monolith94 Can I just say that last night I was reading Goblet of Fire again, (this is the third time, and I'm loving it even more than the first two times) and this time when I read the revelation that Neville's parents were tortured to insanity very nearly brought me to tears, and also filled me with a very real, visceral rage. THAT is quality reading. The fourth book is now officially my favorite.

Can I just say you're a wimp?

	18-01-2003 02:43									#27
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You could say that, but you'd be wrong.
Also, Imran - I love them being longer. Nearly everything she writes I simply find interesting, with perhaps the exception being "Chamber Of Secrets"
Plus, you have to take into account that the fonts are larger in this than in "adult" books.

	18-01-2003 02:45									#28
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I wouldn't say it to be right. But more out a desire to **** with you.

	18-01-2003 03:05									#29
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Too bad man, doesn't work.
It takes alot more than that to **** with me!

	18-01-2003 03:56									#30
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Ok, this has been a little woodpecker working at my brain for a long time, but I can't stand it anymore. monolith, did you have a username before this one?

BTW I agree that the Chamber of Secrets was the worst book at least in terms of plotline. She messed around with metaphors too much at the end. I'm really looking forward to 800 pages of Harry Potter reading in the summer.