20-01-2003 21:13									#61
	Enter the AD-FREE zone

quote: Originally posted by Pedrunn Here is the moment i asked if any proposal would be sent util the moment i ended the turn. I even asked twice and i cant see a feedback from IW about what to send. I thought i hadnt see but the log doesnt lie i did not got a answer from him!!!

Not getting an answer is not the same as a negative answer. IW had already indicated twice before that he clearly wanted a map-exchange, so you should either have done so anyway or have waited longer until he *did* answer.

quote: [22:00] <Pedrunn> IW: Will we threat the Austrians in the exchange map proposal? [22:00] <HTower> [22:00] <Zephyr> no [22:00] <Zephyr> I'm still convinced its not worth it [22:00] <Zephyr> give them gold. its your prerogative to determine how much [22:17] <Zephyr> go east [22:17] <Zephyr> we can get the west map from austroa

I know the job of President isn't easy, but you clearly made a mistake here, a big mistake. But nobody's perfect, mistakes can be made, so that's not too big a deal.

But to make things worse, you also screwed up the proposal when you *did* make it. Now, that merely shows you're a poor (=inexperienced?) diplomat, not that you're a poor president (noone told you to use the correct order), so in that respect noone can hold that against you.

However, it did piss me off: we could have had a close (if temporary) friendship with the Austrians, now war might be unavoidable. And if we do go to war, it will all be because of your mistakes, whether you could help it or not. I apologize if I offended you, but you can't deny the facts...

	21-01-2003 04:16									#62
	Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

= inexperienced.

Why bother when you can flatten the AI?

	21-01-2003 04:20									#63
	Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

'cuz it's fun? And with Frenzy AI, you don't want war with 12 civs at the same time?

	21-01-2003 04:28									#64
	Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

Yeah you do, that's when it becomes fun and (heaven forbid) even challenging!

	21-01-2003 08:00									#65
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

quote: I apologize if I offended you, but you can't deny the facts...

Locutus, not offended just want to clear up why i did not send the proposal and the aswer is because it was not given to me a clear order to do so. You cant deny the facts.

BTW, try not to use incomplete info against me.

quote: [22:00] <Pedrunn> IW: Will we threat the Austrians in the exchange map proposal? [22:00] <HTower> [22:00] <Zephyr> no [22:00] <Zephyr> I'm still convinced its not worth it [22:00] <Zephyr> give them gold. its your prerogative to determine how much [22:01] <Zephyr> possibly [22:01] <The-Gingerbread-Man> This is all too political for me. [22:01] <Locutus> theatening doesn't cost anything AFAIK. but it won't help either, not right now... [22:01] <HuangShang> no gold [22:01] <Zephyr> how much gold do we have? [22:02] <Zephyr> Martin's here

If you go to the end. Asking how much gold we have is not my ideal of be sure to send a give gold proposal. And you guys are to be blaim to since you knew i had not given any comment about the proposal even if it was accepted as expected.

	21-01-2003 08:02									#66
	Increase the size of your Attachments

And about the order the proposal should be sent i bet less than 20% of the community knew.

	21-01-2003 09:07									#67
	Increase the size of your Attachments

I knew about the order they should be sent, i think someone mentioned it in the mod forum, besides ive always done it that way because thats how to interface is layed out with the request window first.

But come on lets not blame Pedrunn, we dont want to play a perfectly efficient game anyway, of course not make the wrong decisions on purpose but its no biggy if we do.