19-01-2003 03:55									#1
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1. In the improvements section, how does the "production" value work? At first I thought it was a multiplier, but it cannot since (factory=2) and (nuclear plant=4)

2. Also in improvements, how do the power plants know which improvements are other power plants, so they can then replace them?

If anyone can answer, thanks!

	19-01-2003 06:35									#2
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I can answer 2, but I've not played with production, so I can't tell you what that is. according to the help however it says it is a fixed number of shields generated by the improvments. I've hadn't have time to check wether it is so or not. Anyone that know for sure?

Now for 2: There is a checkbox: 'Replaces all improvments with this flag set' checked for all powerplants.

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So for 2, does this mean that the flag can only be used for one type of building? ie: you could not have multiple types of granaries and of powerplants? Sounds like this is the case. That's a bit restrictive. Thanks a lot though G, I've been waiting for a reply for hours!

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production value just adds whatever that value is to the production of that city - it is NOT a multiplier.

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I did some testing last night and here's what I've found:
Despite the claims of the help file to the contrary, the production value is in fact a multiplier of 25%. Power plant, factory, and other improvement production values are added to one another and multiplied by 25% of the raw shield income of a city.

Here is my example. Thebes produces 10 shields unassisted. With a factory (production=2; 50% increase) Thebes produces 15 shields. With a nuclear plant (production=4; additional 100%) Thebes then produces 25 shields, that is an altogether addition of 150%, or 15 shields, to the base 10 produced from the land.

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Tahnk you for some very valuable information.

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quote: Originally posted by 0bsidi0n So for 2, does this mean that the flag can only be used for one type of building? ie: you could not have multiple types of granaries and of powerplants? Sounds like this is the case. That's a bit restrictive. Thanks a lot though G, I've been waiting for a reply for hours!

No, unfortunately there's no way to attach that flag to anything but power plants. I agree, it is restrictive.

	20-01-2003 20:56									#8
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Here is a Tutorial that might help with any more Improvement related questions. If you find anything wrong with it let me know.

	21-01-2003 05:55									#9
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Another question.....

supposedly govt specific buildings will still work in a different govt.....


(I.E. concentration camps built during West Moldavia's Fascist regime are still functional in it's new Democratic government.)

can Anybody confirm or deny this? I have yet to test it myself.

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quote: Originally posted by NeOmega Another question..... supposedly govt specific buildings will still work in a different govt..... (I.E. concentration camps built during West Moldavia's Fascist regime are still functional in it's new Democratic government.) can Anybody confirm or deny this? I have yet to test it myself.

Only some wonder effects still work. If it's just an improvement it will disappear from your city list, along with it's abilities.

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Thanks for the tutorial Clay; very concise and much easier to follow than the one at the beginning of this forum.

Willem, you say that gov-specific thing applies to some wonders? Is there some trend you've noticed, or will I just have to create and test? Thanks alot!

	21-01-2003 09:30									#12
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quote: Originally posted by 0bsidi0n Willem, you say that gov-specific thing applies to some wonders? Is there some trend you've noticed, or will I just have to create and test? Thanks alot!

I haven't tried all the wonder flags yet, and some are pretty much impossible to be sure of, but I have come across a few so far. For instance anything with "Reduces Corruption" does linger, as does " Build Army Without Leader" and "Treasury Earns 5%".

What does work is a wonder that creates a building in each city.