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Maquiladora
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From what i can tell from the turn chat and the maps available our negotiations for the Austrian's map has failed, and any future attempts would be just as unsuccessful.
Note: Your voting to choose if you want to go to War in the next 2 turns only.
The question is though should we go to War by attacking the new Austrian city founded on the Nothern river beside the wheat good? Or do we play it peaceful with our powerful neighbours and expand by our own settlers for now?
Last edited by Maquiladora on 19-01-2003 at 06:05
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Maquiladora
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Do you think this poll is abit vague? I mean it doesnt state when you want to go to war just that you do or dont. I mean we could build 9 more cities on our own and then go to war, thats still a vote for war.
I personally want to build one more city on our own then prepare and wage war, i guess thats a vote for war.
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mapfi
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Zurich, Switzerland
Jul 2002 time: 06:25
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destroy that city!
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Zaphod Beeblebrox
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aachen, germany
Aug 1999 time: 05:25
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why destroy that city? there will be no benefit from that. if we attack at all, than citys worth capturing with forces able to do so.
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Turambar
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England
Apr 2002 time: 05:25
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No war until we are strong enough!
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MrBaggins
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin
Who abstained? Surely everyone has an opinion about a subject as important as war and peace. |
I did. I don't think there is a completely convincing case either way for war within 2 turns.
I.E. It would be tremendously beneficial for us to win.
Its extremely risky for us to attack *now*
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Zaphod Beeblebrox
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aachen, germany
Aug 1999 time: 05:25
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ic what you mean pedrunn, but we should only conquer cities we can hold or we want to destroy utterly because their placed bad. neither of those seems to be the situation here at the moment.
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mapfi
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Zurich, Switzerland
Jul 2002 time: 06:25
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I think we held this vote prematurely - first there's still the map deal that could work ans second:
Are we going to use the moving cursor over enemy city trick to see if there are any units in the austrian city? If not I think it's too risky, but I say we use it. The game's tough as it is.
I also wish I hadn't voted yet...
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Maquiladora
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Yeah i know, its hanging abit in the air with the Austrians, the vote should be war or second settler really.
quote: Are we going to use the moving cursor over enemy city trick to see if there are any units in the austrian city? |
Thats a good question, are we also going to build farms under cities? Right click everywhere to look for stealth units? Use retreat slaver bug?... maybe we need a poll decing this too.
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Zaphod Beeblebrox
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aachen, germany
Aug 1999 time: 05:25
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rightclick for stealth units? thats a one i didn't know
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mapfi
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Zurich, Switzerland
Jul 2002 time: 06:25
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quote: the vote should be war or second settler really. |
not really, Dale said that the Austrians would probably give in if we destroy their city and we can go on with the settler - but I think we need to hurt them now or we will be crushed.
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child of Thor
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well i played a Cradle 1.34b game yesterday:
difficulty: very hard
barbs: roaming(?)
I had one city on what turned out to be an eastern penisula. I met the greeks to the west of me and their diplo stance was very much like the Austrians - alot more powerfull than us(as i turned out they had five cities to my one.). So i appeased abit(gave gold for a few turns to try to improve their regard for us), did a small amount of grovelling as they were way ahead of me on the graphs. Then i decided this situation looked kinda like the Austrian one so i experimented. Production was cranked up and 2 warriors and a slinger i had found in a goody hut attacked the nearest city and took it. I carried on this pattern untill i now have 13 cities, of which i only settled 3 of them. The Greeks have two cities left and i'm in a stronger position, although still way behind the leaders in tech.
So in this case taking the risk was worth it. I don't know how much of an edge that slinger gave me but i think if i had another warrior instead the outcome would have been the same as the city just had one defender.
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