19-01-2003 21:39									#1
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We are now at war with both The Hive and The University. Since we had a debate, showing support for Covert War over full blown invasion, I would like to know how it should be conducted.

We have some worrying news. The Hive have Doctrine: Air Power, and are creating a Needlejet. The University is researching Fusion Power, and has Advanced Military Algorithms.

I have come up with these planned for Probe Teams/foils regarding this twin threat.

Please vote for one in part 1, and two in part 2.

Part 1: What should our Probe Team priorities be?
Attack The Hive - Steal techs and sabotage production.
Attack the University - Steal techs and sabotage production.
Steal techs from both.
Explore.
Write-in
Xenobanana

Part 2: Should we Mind Control a University Base and/or a Hive Base?

Unversity base - Yea, Nay or Xenobanana.
Hive Base - Yea, Nay or Xenobanana.
Xenobanana
(no need for write-in in a yea or nay poll, either you want to, you don't want to, or you do not care. And the "Yea if we have this" sort of write-ins are immaterial since this poll if for us at the moment. If to agree you need to attach conditions, then that is a nay)

For discussion use Covert Ops Centre.

This poll will last 3 days.

Last edited by Drogue on 19-01-2003 at 21:48

	19-01-2003 22:03									#2
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steal from both, but only MC the university...it'll be really cheap with their -4 probe

	19-01-2003 22:09									#3
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Then choose not to MC the University Base

BTW: I would like to announce that this is my 1000 post King-in-1

	19-01-2003 23:29									#4
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And If I only propose Techstealing and no Sabotage?

	20-01-2003 02:31									#5
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Well, there's one tech from each at the moment, and we have 3 probe foils, and two probe teams on a transport. If you want to steal tech from both, choose it, if only from one, then choose explore, because we have a foil near each base with orders from last time. Besides, this is only a general poll, on what our priorities should be: get more techs, stop the Hive, stop the University, or explore.

	20-01-2003 02:53									#6
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Since the poll lack a proper option like the Virus-thingie (do we have the tech?) i have voted for steal tech from both of them, and no mind controls.

	20-01-2003 02:59									#7
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Congrats Drogue on King status. re poll probe both.

	20-01-2003 03:28									#8
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Lemmy: Did the poll before, and under all circumstances you were the only person to vote for allowing atrocities. Therefore, as I said, I will not be polling for atrocities as long as I am DEI We are the Peacekeepers

	20-01-2003 10:56									#9
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I would like to know how much energy credits it would cost us to mind control either a University of Hive base before making such a decision. The other question would be, assuming we were to take control of a Hive or University base, could we effectively defend it against Hiverian forces (seeing as University forces do not pose as great a threat as the Hive)? If the base would fall quickly it would be a waste to mind control it. Perhaps a better alternative would be to synchronies mind controlling a Hiverian base with an assault against the Hive by our forces. The capture base could be use as a base of operations from where we could launch our assault against the remainder of Hiverian territory. The troops stationed in the captured Hive base would be an effective defense force against a Hiverian counterattack giving us a better chance of holding the base.

	20-01-2003 10:58									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Drogue Lemmy: Did the poll before, and under all circumstances you were the only person to vote for allowing atrocities. Therefore, as I said, I will not be polling for atrocities as long as I am DEI We are the Peacekeepers

Normally I’d be in defense of the proposition to at least give the option of conducing atrocities against the Hive with our probe forces, but last I recall our constitution prohibits such action, therefore it would be unconstitutional if the poll even gave the option of atrocities.

	20-01-2003 13:11									#11
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quote: Therefore, as I said, I will not be polling for atrocities as long as I am DEI

Damn you, if i had the time for it i would run against you, and your evil moralistic viewpoints

	20-01-2003 17:23									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Voltaire I would like to know how much energy credits it would cost us to mind control either a University of Hive base before making such a decision. The other question would be, assuming we were to take control of a Hive or University base, could we effectively defend it against Hiverian forces (seeing as University forces do not pose as great a threat as the Hive)? If the base would fall quickly it would be a waste to mind control it. Perhaps a better alternative would be to synchronies mind controlling a Hiverian base with an assault against the Hive by our forces. The capture base could be use as a base of operations from where we could launch our assault against the remainder of Hiverian territory. The troops stationed in the captured Hive base would be an effective defense force against a Hiverian counterattack giving us a better chance of holding the base.

I agree. I simply wanted to see what sort of support there was for the idea, as it had been mentioned before to me. If there is some support. I will start a discussion, and then poll, with information and cost, on which base to try it on. The idea of a MC base is also as a base for probe teams, since they will return to that base, it means we can do much more damage, and steal much more.

	21-01-2003 17:46									#13
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Something which needs to be pointed out here - We are not at war with the University. They pledged Blood Truce in the same chat as they declared war.

	21-01-2003 18:00									#14
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really? Sorry about that. I presumed we were still at war, looking at your plan. In that case I'll post a new poll. The only optyions being attack the Hive or explore though, since an earlier poll stated that we cannot do anything other than infiltrate against a faction we have a truce with.

	21-01-2003 18:06									#15
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My plan involved tech trading with the University, not theft, although if that becomes the only option to save knowledge from vanishing as the Hive troops rampage, by all means use it.