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	The Apolyton Hall of Fame: January 2003 Support Apolyton, buy Alpha Centauri

4th Post down from here contains VOTING RESULTS!

Hello and welcome to another edition of the Apolyton Hall of Fame!

What is it?
The Apolyton Hall of Fame (HoF) is a list of people who contributed a lot to the community here on Apolyton. For example: Xin Yu was inducted in the HoF for his incredible strategy and MP contributions to the Civ2 section, yin26 for his fantastic work on 'The List' with suggestions for Civ3. Every member of the Hall of Fame has made great contributions to Apolyton and the Civilization community - these people and their accomplishments must be remembered by us all!

If you don't recognize many names you probably haven't been here very long and/or hardly ever post outside this forum - in that case this HoF might be a good opportunity to learn something about them. That is why this Hall of Fame was created: to remember and learn.

Periodically, we hold a vote for the Apolytoners who we think contribute the most to Apolyton, the ones who make Apolyton what it is. The winners shall be inducted in the Hall of Fame and their names will live forever in the annals of APOLYTON!

History
The idea for the Hall of Fame was born in late 2000 as an outgrowth of the old Apolyton Army and Apolytoner of the Season Contests, seeking to honor the people of Apolyton in a more meaningful and structured way.

The first edition was held in the Off Topic in December 2000 over a period of 3 days and is currently archived. The first election saw Markos and Dan, the owners and administrators of this site, and the first 10 posters inducted.

Since then, the HoF vote has been held roughly 4 times a year with 11-14 total members being elected every year. Up until August 2002, the vote was held only in the Off Topic forum - from that time on it has been posted in other sections (first in Civ3, later also in SMAC, CtP1-MP, CtP2, etc).

Special Thanks/Why we do certain things:
Ming for archiving the first thread and helping manage the thread in its early days.
As per suggestion by MOBIUS, the last vote's are carried onto the next votes.
As per suggestion by Solver, all previous votes are carried onto the next votes.
As per suggestion by Martin Guhman, December votes are extended till 6 days.
As per suggestion by Locutus, introduction revised.

This edition
Welcome to the January 2003 edition of the APOLYTON HALL OF FAME

(2 Members to be inducted this session)
(Only 12 total will be elected this year)
You have approximately 4 days to vote (until the ___).

Please vote today and elect some of your brethern to join the historic December class; consisting of such hallowed names as Adam Smith, DanQ, MarkG, Giant Squid, St Leo, Ming, Snapcase and more.

So now is your chance to decide: who should be inducted in the HoF this time? Celestial_Dawn for this pioneer work in modding CtP1? WesW for his work on both MedMods, JohnT, the former Apolyton Librarian and debating poster, Googlie or Hydro for their extensive work in AC Fiction and Multiplayer, Hexagonian for his Cradle accomplishments? Or maybe orange for the Apolyton Yearbook? Or perhaps Fez for his amusing rants? It's up to you, now: Remember, your vote counts! And you only have 4 days in which to make it count!

Notice:
This is a satellite thread: you may vote here, but the votes won't be updated in this thread- instead, they will be updated in these threads: OT (Link), Civ III (Link) Because they proved to be the most popular voting locations.



Table of Contents
I Introduction Post
1) What is it
2) History
3) This Edition
4) Table of Contents
5) Notice

II Rules Post
1) Rules for voting
2) FAQ

III Hall Posting
1) Hall of Fame Members
2) Alphabetical member list
3) Chronological member list (by date of induction)
4) Chronological member list (by registration date)
5) Information about the Hall of Famers

IV Current Voting
1) Current Standings
2) Who voted for Whom

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1) Rules for voting

Everyone can vote for 3 posters

Registered In/Before 1999- 4 points per vote
Registered In 2000- 3 points per vote
Registered In 2001- 3 point per vote
Registered In 2002- 2 points per vote
Registered In 2003- 1 point per vote

-You may not vote for yourself.
-All ¡¥frivolous¡¦ votes are thrown out.
-Giving your vote to someone merely because they ask is considered a frivolous vote.

You may only vote once in the hall of fame (for 3 people) IF you try to vote more than once ALL of your votes will be made void.

Time Limit for voting is: 4 Days Roughly¡KUsually when the voting starts dying down.


2) FAQ:

¡§Trust me, an on-topicer will never win ¡§

What about Xin Yu? What about Velociryx?
And remember, many of these ¡¥mostly-OT posters¡¦ used to be huge on-topic posters back around 1998-99!

Disclaimer:

The Hall of Fame is based on whoever people vote for, and as Lazarus and the Gimp stated so eloquently: ¡§"The compilers of this list cannot rule out the possibility of inductees being a bunch of utter ****s" Thus. Please. Don¡¦t shoot the messenger.

¡§Where is the Hall of Fame usually posted?¡¨

From December 2000 to August 2002, the Hall of Fame had only been posted in the Off Topic forums; with occasional forays into the Apolyton/Community section. However, nowadays you can find the Apolyton Hall of Fame in the OT (main) Civ III (main) and with satellite threads that link into the hall of fame in the following sections: CTP II MP, AC-General, Alt.Civ section-„³Clash of Civilizations (b/c it has 2nd most posts in alt.civ), Civ III DemoGame sections.

Also, the Hall of Fame is currently lobbying to become a news item.

¡§How long is voting?¡¨

Voting will continue for roughly 4 days.
In December; voting will be 6 days.

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1) Hall of Fame Members

Apolyton Hall of Fame Members -39

December 2001 Adam Smith
December 2000 Alexander's Horse [The Apolyton Troll]
December 2002 Asher
March 2001 Boshko (AKA Zhu Yuanzhang Dave Boshko, Boshko)
December 2001 chegitz guevara
August 2002 Chris 62
December 2000 DanQ
March 2002 Ecthelion
March 2001 *End is Forever* (AKA Iain Lindley)
June 2001 EVC (AKA EvC, Evan VonChristof) [The Apolyton Daffy Duck] [Perma-Banned] (But now present as Thorn)
December 2002 Frogger (AKA KrazyHorse)
December 2000 Giant Squid (AKA Celestion the God, Alexander the Great) [The Apolyton DL]
June 2002 GP
January 2001 Imran Siddiqui [ACS News Coordinator]
March 2002 Jay Bee
March 2001 Lancer
March 2001 Lazarus and the Gimp (AKA: Ron Jeremy, Bugs ****ing Bunny, Trappist)
December 2000 Mao
December 2000 MarkG
December 2000 MichaeltheGreat [Another OT Moderator]
December 2000 MikeH
December 2000 Ming [The OT Moderator]
June 2001 Monk
June 2002 paiktis22
December 2000 Provost Harrison (AKA AI) [The Apolyton Scientist]
March 2002 rah [Yet another OT moderator]
December 2001 Ramo
December 2000 Roland
August 2002 Sirotnikov
December 2002 Slowwhand
December 2001 Snapcase
June 2001 SnowFire
June 2001 Starchild
June 2001 Stefu
January 2001 Stewart Spink [Perma-Banned]
December 2000 St Leo
June 2001 SuperSneak
December 2001 Wraith
March 2002 Velociryx
March 2002 yin26
December 2000 Yo_Yo_Yo_Hey [Perma-Banned]
June 2002 Xin Yu

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2) No Dates; Alphabetically:
Adam Smith
Alexander's Horse
Asher
Boshko
chegitz guevara
Chris 62
DanQ
Ecthelion
*End is Forever*
EVC
Frogger
Giant Squid
GP
Imran Siddiqui
Jay Bee
Lancer
Lazarus and the Gimp
Mao
MarkG
Michael the Great
MikeH
Ming
Monk
paiktis22
Provost Harrison
rah
Ramo
Roland
sirotnikov
Slowwhand
Snapcase
SnowFire
Starchild
Stefu
Stewart Spink
St Leo
SuperSneak
Velociryx
Wraith
Xin Yu
yin26
Yo_Yo_Yo_Hey

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3) Chronologically
MarkG Automatic Inductee
DanQ Automatic Inductee
Ming December 2000
MikeH December 2000
MichaeltheGreat December 2000
Mao December 2000
Alexander's Horse December 2000
Giant Squid December 2000
Provost Harrison December 2000
Roland December 2000
Yo_Yo_Yo_Hey December 2000
St. Leo December 2000
Imran Siddiqui January 2001
Stewart Spink January 2001
Lancer March 2001
Ron Jeremy March 2001
*End is Forever*March 2001
Boshko March 2001
EVC June 2001
Monk June 2001
Snowfire June 2001
Starchild June 2001
SuperSneak June 2001
Stefu June 2001
Adam Smith December 2001
chegitz guevara December 2001
Ramo December 2001
Snapcase December 2001
Wraith December 2001
rah March 2002
yin26 March 2002
Ecthelion March 2002
Jay Bee March 2002
Velociryx March 2002
Xin Yu June 2002
GP June 2002
paiktis22 June 2002
Chris 62 August 2002
Sirotnikov August 2002
Frogger December 2002
Asher December 2002
Slowwhand December 2002

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4) Sorted by Year Registered

1998 (22)
Ming
MarkG
Stewart Spink
Imran Siddiqui
Alexander’s Horse
*End is Forever*
DanQ
Jay Bee
St. Leo
yin26
Yo_Yo_Yo_Hey
Snowfire
Starchild
rah
GP
Xin Yu
MichaeltheGreat
Giant Squid
Boshko
Stefu
Adam Smith
Lazarus and the Gimp (YES he really did register then; he’s had his account reset thrice)

1999 (13)
Yo_Yo_Yo_Hey
Ramo
Mao
Velociryx
MikeH
EVC
Snapcase
Roland
Wraith (?)
SuperSneak (?)
Lancer
Slowwhand
Asher

2000 (5)
Provost Harrison
Ecthelion
chegitz guevara (?)
Sirotnikov (?)
paiktis 22 (?)

2001 (2)
Chris 62
KrazyHorse (?)

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5) Information About the Hall of Famer’s
Information Courtesy: The Apolyton 100

MarkG - Founder of the site and maintainer. He has created numerous scripts for the site; uploaded data and dealt with troubles, all the while still finding the time to post in the Civ II sections and play Civ. A true legend.
DanQ - Founder of the site and maintainer. He has created numerous scripts for the site; uploaded data and dealt with troubles, all the while still finding the time to post in the Civ II sections and play Civ. A true legend.
Ming - OT moderator. Benevolent and kind. Civ II Mper and Civ II poster. He keeps order on the site and posts a lot in the OT
MikeH - AC-Player; now best known for his Off-topic postings. He now resides at CounterGlow.
MichaeltheGreat - Off topic moderator. Civ II player.
Mao - OT poster, he also posted in the Civ II sections until Aug 2000 when he faded from the forums
EVC - Humorous. Slightly offensive. Well-known for micronationalism; crazed antics. OT regular until his permabanning
Giant Squid - Old Mod-Maker for Civ II and poster on the forums since almost their inception. Best known for Apolyton Micronationalism.
Provost Harrison - AC poster, OT poster, ubiquitious poster. Provost is best known for his off-topic exploits.
Roland - Apolyton economicist and financial wizard
Yo_Yo_Yo_Hey - Co-Founded of The Alpha Centauri Nexus (more popular than ACN's SMAC section at the game's peak).
St. Leo - Currently hangs out and promotes the Scenario League. He used to be one of the more important Civ II posters.
Imran Siddiqui- ACS News Editor, large poster back in the old days. Civ II poster. Civ III-ideas poster. Now he generally hangs out in the Off-Topic. He enjoyed the old Story-Threads and contributed to many of them.
Stewart Spink - Humor. Spam. OT. Discussions. He was an Apolyton staff member at one time. He maintained the Civ II Top Ten Scoring list and some other things. He also had his own Civ II site.
Lancer - Well known for his charitable Karen Mills threads about the family in the Phillipines and the Apolyton House. He is also well known for his many invaluable Civ II contribuitions
Ron Jeremy- Humorous/Cynical Apolytoner. An old Civ II-er, he now hangs out in the OT.
*End is Forever* - Very interested in music. OT-er.
Boshko- OT-er. Big in political threads
Monk - OT-er. INFO NEEDED
Snowfire - Great contribuiter to The List for Civ III… One of the threadmasters for the Civ III list.
Stefu - STEFU! Finnish OT-er! Very humorous.
Adam Smith - Financial wizard. Economicist. Used to be big in the Civ II sections; he now solicits financial advice in the OT.
chegitz guevara - Communist… You guessed it… Theben’s brother. Currently lives in Florida. Well known for his remarkably Left-wing viewpoints.
Ramo - Another Libertarian/Anarchist. Yet Another Texan named Omar. Off-Topic debator.
Snapcase - Hacker, OT-er, and in charge of the Apolyton News.
Wraith - Social Libertarian. OT-er. Anime fan. MORE INFORMATION NEEDED.
rah - Major Civ II Mper, brother of Ming and current moderator of the OT. He also posts in the Civ II general section.
yin26- - South Korean master of THE LIST for Civ III! Yin26 used to be moderator of the Civ III section until he decided that he didn’t like Civ III… And for all newbies- you can relate his vitriolic statements about Alpha Centauri to Coracle’s whining about Civ III! However, returning to the more important information: yin 26’s listmastering tasks are not to be underestimated- he sorted thorough THOUSANDS of posts to find the best to submit to Firaxis in that huge 200 to 400-or-so page sacred document that is THE LIST.
Ecthelion- - Deutsche-Spam. Prominent Oter known for his humor. Formerly known as Andz83 and ChaosWarrior, Ecthelion originally posted in the Civilization II section. History happens to be one of his favorite topics.
Jay Bee- - Current moderator of the Spanish Civilization II section of the Forums. He is also the genial head of the Spanish Civilization II Site; an excellent site with many varied Spanish-setting scenarios. Jay Bee has been with Apolyton almost since its inception, being one of the first 4 people to register on the forums; right behind the venerable MarkG, DanQ and DarthVeda.
Velociryx - Current head of the Candle’bre project, a project centered around creating a free massively multiplayer game a la Trade Empires. Vel is also the published author of a recently (July 2002) released Mystery. (PLEASE CORRECT IF I AM WRONG ABOUT GENRE/GAME); he also published a strategy game for Alpha Centauri. Former AC-Fiction author and frequent AC-contributor. Once voted Apolytoner of the Season for the entire site. More information can be found in the Faces of Apolyon Interview by Solver
Xin Yu - Civ II strategy master and MPer. More information can be found in his Faces of Apolyon Interview by Solver
GP- Best known for his proponency of the “Branching Thread” format; GP is a former Navy Crewman who happens to be a frequent debater and frequenter of the Apolyton Off-Topic; he has also, in the past, visited the Civ II section, giving hints and advice. Currently (as of Nov 2002) he is under one of his asked for ‘bans-from-Apolyton’ so that he is not tempted to post
paiktis22- PLEASE CONTRIBUTE INFORMATION; Apolyton OT-er and former Civ III-ideas and Civ II regular.
Chris62 - He frequents the Spanish Civilization II, Scenario League, OT, General, Multiplayer website forums.
Sirotnikov Humorous. Defends Israel in the OT (since he lives in Israel)
Frogger Large OT poster and sometimes poster in the Civ II sections
Asher Prominent and loyal OTer
Slowwhand OT and Civ II poster and Multiplayer.

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NOTE: You may vote here, but the full voting results will only be published in the following threads:
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=74527
AND
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=74529

Have a good time!

	20-01-2003 02:21									#4
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Snowfire and Imran Siddiqui!

Man, I haven't seen much of those guys since the full year I spent on the SMAC forums as one of the leading posters before that game's release! How many years ago was that? 3? 4?

Hmm... Snowfire is still on my AIM list, I should see if I can get him involved in the Civ3DG

Ah, back in the days before SMAC was a game and it was just a concept, Arnelos was one of the 3 leading posters of the Peacekeepers faction

I haven't participated in the SMAC-DG because I got too involved in the Civ3DG... you know, whatever's knew, I go with it

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Just dug around on my harddrive to see if I could find the old "SMACer of the Year" awards I organized on the SMAC forums back-in-the-day... I must have deleted all those old html files and text files ages ago

Too bad, really... If I remember correctly, I tied with "Brother" as "Peacekeeper of the Year" along with such things as "Least Annoying American" and a few other amusing categories we had

Imran Siddiqui I remember as "Highest Postcount", I think along with "Spartan of the Year". He might have gotten the "Most Annoying American" award, but he wasn't the only one in the running for that one I don't remember if Snowfire got "University Member of the Year" or not, but I remember that he was in the running for it.

I recruited Snowfire for another game that I was playtesting for at the time, but I haven't been so good about participating in that playtest over the past year

As for the Peacekeeprs... I've been a Peacekeeper SO LONG that I was a "member" of that faction on the Firaxis boards back when it was called "The Keepers of Wisdom" when the game was till in Alpha

	20-01-2003 06:29									#6
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quote: Snowfire and Imran Siddiqui! Man, I haven't seen much of those guys since the full year I spent on the SMAC forums as one of the leading posters before that game's release! How many years ago was that? 3? 4?

Oh, they're still around, check out the OffTopic!
Imran tries from time to time to start stories up... and snowfire lurks (also seen in the Other GAmes section)

if you were at the .owo forums, why did it take you so long to get to apolyton, just wondering?

But Imran and Snowfire already in the hall... If you want, feel free to vote for someone else.

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quote: Originally posted by DarkCloud if you were at the .owo forums, why did it take you so long to get to apolyton, just wondering?

Not long after SMAC came out and I wasn't posting on the Firaxis boards anyhow, this odd thing called "real life" knocked me over because I was starting to get a rather involved social life at university...

Since I left university over the summer, I had tons of free time in August/September and wandered over to 'poly to have some fun

So I'm back

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Trip

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My 3 votes:

1. UnOrthOdOx (Jungle Gazette, NewZupdateZ, Directory, etc.)
2. Togas (NewCon, Terms of Service, etc.)
3. Trip (Doing a whole lot of work to start the C3DG and the C3PTW-DG, providing critical early leadership in both, etc.)

Ok, those are my choices. I'll have to nominate notyoueither, Kloreep, GodKing, and/or Ninot when and if those three above get in at some point

PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS VOTE HAS BEEN ALTERED

Last edited by Arnelos on 21-01-2003 at 02:42

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Nice list...
Two more names: Sn00py and GhengisFarb.

GhengisFarb
GodKing
Kloreep
Ninot
notyoueither
Sn00py
Trip
Togas
UnOrthOdOx

This will be tough...

I'll vote later.

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Votes Updated!
Only 2 dyas of voting left!

Locutus and orange are in the lead; but Alinestra covelia is fcoming up fast, as are Catt, Trip and Arrian!

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EVERYONE VOTE UNORTHODOX

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My votes go to UnOrthOdOx, for the Gazette, Togas, for the NewCon, and Aro, for the maps.

	21-01-2003 01:24									#14
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I vote...

1. Unorthodox for his dedication, jungle gazets, newz updatez and organization. He reeally hepled this Demo game and I hope he is wel.
2. Sn00py - well his graphic mods made it to PTW, that should be recognized here somehow.
3. Arrian - One of the finest strategists that we curreently have

Final Vote (Arrian) Added Please Update

Mss

Last edited by ManicStarSeed on 21-01-2003 at 23:15

	21-01-2003 01:35									#15
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My 3 votes:

1. UnOrthOdOx
2. Togas
3. Arnelos

Last edited by dejon on 22-01-2003 at 03:48

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1. Unortho
2. Arnelos
3. Ghengis Farb

	21-01-2003 02:14									#17
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I haven't voted yet!

1- UnOrthOdOx, the honorable editor of The Jungle Gazette

2- Sn00py, for his amazing graphic mods

3-.........

Hard choice here. I have to think...

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My votes:

1: UnOrthOdOx, for his many projects that greatly furthered the Demogame.

2: Togas, for all of his work, but ESPECIALLY for being the Primary author of the NewCon.

3: Vote undecided as of now.

-- adaMada

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1. UnOrthOdOx
2. Sn00py
3. Aro

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Guys, I apreciate the thought, but am hardly worthy of such distinction.

I vote Trip for getting both this and the PTW game off the ground, Togas for many reasons including the NewCon, and MrWIA for his work both here and in the C2DG.

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quote: Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx Guys, I apreciate the thought, but am hardly worthy of such distinction. I vote Trip for getting both this and the PTW game off the ground, Togas for many reasons including the NewCon, and MrWIA for his work both here and in the C2DG.

Aack! He's alive! I thought we were doing this posthumously...........

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	21-01-2003 05:14									#23
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Thanks to anyone who has already and might vote for me, I appreciate your favorable views of me.

I've already voted in another forum so I'd better keep quiet, or else my votes will be voided.

Also, DarkCloud, you need to update for some people who have updated their votes (Arnelos is one, and there areothers who will probably soon as well).

Last edited by Trip on 21-01-2003 at 05:19

	21-01-2003 15:39									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Aro GhengisFarb GodKing Kloreep Ninot notyoueither Sn00py Trip Togas UnOrthOdOx This will be tough...

I have one vote left, and I just decided...
But first... In my own list, I have great names, mostly conected with our Demo Game. Togas ( and the new CoL), notyoueither (a legend), GhengisFarb, GK, Ninot, Kloreep...

I think that Trip is a man of the C3DG, a "Founding Father". And he did the same in the PTW DG... Not to mention his mods and scenarios (Civil War, etc).
AND... Last, but not least he has a chance to win.

So... to fill my last spot:

my 3rd vote goes to Trip

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...and now, the Votes, from the Big Furry Jury:

In random order:

Trip (PTW Demo Game)
Aro (Civ 3 Demo Game Maps)
Sn00py (Graphic Mods)

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hi ,

Eli

have a nice day

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Thanks some more guys.

I'm not sure what chance I have to win though... I only have about 40 points, while the top guys have about 70. Maybe next time.

2 days left for voting.

	22-01-2003 03:30									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Arnelos My 3 votes: 1. UnOrthOdOx (Jungle Gazette, NewZupdateZ, Directory, etc.) 2. Togas (NewCon, Terms of Service, etc.) 3. Trip (Doing a whole lot of work to start the C3DG and the C3PTW-DG, providing critical early leadership in both, etc.) Ok, those are my choices. I'll have to nominate notyoueither, Kloreep, GodKing, and/or Ninot when and if those three above get in at some point

Wow - this is my list exactly for the demo game work.

Thanks for the honerable mention.

I would also like to add Aro, mwia, adaMada, Arnelos, Panag and so many others that I would get tired typing the whole list for Honerable mentions as well. So please excuse me if your name has not been mentioned...

GK

	22-01-2003 20:49									#29
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1. Trip
2. NotYouEither
3. MrWhereItsAt

	23-01-2003 00:16									#30
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1. Unorthodox
2. Notyoueither
3. Togas