20-01-2003 08:39									#1
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weve talked heps lets vote

	20-01-2003 09:04									#2
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quote: try out SCG's Idea

I'm assuming you mean my post to bribe Kazan and use the engineers next turn, leaving the mongol cavalry alone till next turn? (since it can't take a city on its own if it survives the bribe)?

	20-01-2003 09:12									#3
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The other possibility i suggested was to bribe Kazan, then reevaluate whether to attack or not (although i stand by using the engineers to connect Naples and Kerman next turn)

	20-01-2003 12:13									#4
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bribe the calvalry, the city aint going anywhere

	20-01-2003 19:18									#5
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perhaps the cav is supported form the city, if we bribe the city, we may get the cav for free... and if you buy right now, not only will you get a calvary, but we will also through in a years supply of horse shows, all for the price of 9.99. but wait there is still more.... if phone in the next thrity seconds and can quote Pi to the ten thousandth place you will get a free set of ginsu steak knives

	20-01-2003 21:21									#6
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I voted for the first option, on the understanding that we bribe Kazan then act further according to how it changes the situation around Naples.

	21-01-2003 03:12									#7
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Bribe Kazan, then destroy enemy calvary with free troops.

	21-01-2003 03:55									#8
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Maybe I'm misunderstanding something, but aren't the 1st and 3rd options about the same thing?

	21-01-2003 04:26									#9
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quote: Originally posted by cavebear Maybe I'm misunderstanding something, but aren't the 1st and 3rd options about the same thing?

by the end of the discussion there isn't that much difference, other than my plan seemed to give direction for next turn (build the road to Kerman, and reinforce with units from the other 2 cities if necessary). The closer to the front of the discussion you get, my initial suggestion was to leave alone/defend against the cavalry and go after the city as I saw it as the biggest threat.

Minister Arnold hasn't yet quite clarified exactly what he listed as my Idea, so i'm a little confused myself.

quote: Originally posted by War4ever bribe the calvalry, the city aint going anywhere

The City isn't, but its defenders might

	21-01-2003 04:48									#10
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quote: Originally posted by SCG The City isn't, but its defenders might

I can just picture it: "Civ 4: The Mobile Cities". "It's the far future. Civ2's mobile units gave way to Civ3's cultural influences. Now we take it to the final limit! MOBILE CITIES

Watch as your mobile cities slowly approach and engulf the smaller cities of the (still stupid) AI civs! Watch as after days of movement, your city finally absorbs neighboring cities as "suburbs"!

Watch as the newest game in the series emerges: "Sim-Civ"!

(sorry, couldn't help myself, the momentum carried me...)

	21-01-2003 05:21									#11
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quote: Originally posted by cavebear I can just picture it: "Civ 4: The Mobile Cities". "It's the far future. Civ2's mobile units gave way to Civ3's cultural influences. Now we take it to the final limit! MOBILE CITIES Watch as your mobile cities slowly approach and engulf the smaller cities of the (still stupid) AI civs! Watch as after days of movement, your city finally absorbs neighboring cities as "suburbs"!

Quick, we need a new forum!
We need to get the ball rolling on this while the iron is hot

	21-01-2003 05:53									#12
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quote: Originally posted by SCG Quick, we need a new forum! We need to get the ball rolling on this while the iron is hot

And, of course, you will have little control of the direction your individual cities move. The theme of the game will be that cities are sovereign and that you can only keep them in your shpere of general influence by unendingly building happiness Wonders and improvements...

LOL!

	21-01-2003 06:13									#13
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Sorry guys I ment the secound option. the one that our pres seaid thats crazzy enought that it just might work

	21-01-2003 07:59									#14
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I say go after Kazan first to cover the right flank - and then take out the Cavalry. Since we don't know what's in Kazan, and it could be reinforced in the Mongols' turn, the city is the greater threat.

	21-01-2003 08:15									#15
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even if its reinforced, all the more to take in the bribery, and there is always the chance the city will go into disorder and we can get it cheaper

	21-01-2003 08:27									#16
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True... but it could be reinforced with Cavalry by ship - and then Naples is at risk before our next move.

Disorder - why would it do that? Are we planning temple sabotage?

	21-01-2003 09:13									#17
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War-

The Mongols are Fundy.
Don't see them going into disorder anytime soon.

	23-01-2003 09:29									#18
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i didnt 'realize they were fundy, and the ai has a knack of going into disorder in their cities..... but i am sure you knew this way

	23-01-2003 11:27									#19
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From my experience, when I have bribed AI cities, I often find that I also get numerous additional units that were supported by the city in question. Therefore, when based on the strategy above, (bribing the city first) we may be lucky and get the Mongol cav, eng., and a few other units. I remember one game i got a few marines, two stealth bombers and some mech inf.

	25-01-2003 01:24									#20
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Kazan bribanda est
as Scipio would say !

	25-01-2003 21:30									#21
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so we bribed the city first?

	25-01-2003 23:39									#22
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Yes, we bribed Kazan first, to prevent an attack on Naples. I think the Mongol response with such force was unusually quick, but you can never trust the AI to play by the rules we labor under.

	26-01-2003 02:02									#23
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what did the mongols do?

	26-01-2003 02:38									#24
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Transported troops to re-take Kazan, apparently...

	27-01-2003 03:16									#25
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quote: Originally posted by War4ever what did the mongols do?

	27-01-2003 03:18									#26
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i just noticed what might be another mongol city on our continent

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