21-01-2003 05:14									#1
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I never noticed this before, but Miriam's research appears to be locked at -2, just as Wang's efficiency appears to be locked at 0.

I noticed this only on my current game where I am running Miriam as Demo, Green, Wealth, and Cybernetic. This should yield a research rate of 0. But it remains at -2.

I don't recall ever seeing this posted here before.

BTW, what happens when she is running Fundy? Does research remain at -2? (I will check this tonight.)

	21-01-2003 06:01									#2
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I have never seen that noted before -- I play Miriam infrequently myself but I would have remembered if someone posted that.

	21-01-2003 07:37									#3
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Research goes from -2 to -4 when running Fundy. It drops back to -2 when changed to Cybernetic, and to 0 if Fundy is then removed

(You can check all this thru the scenario editor)

Miriam can never be SE research positive, as knowledge (giving a +2 research) is her aversion - she can't run it)

G.

	21-01-2003 08:02									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Googlie Research goes from -2 to -4 when running Fundy. It drops back to -2 when changed to Cybernetic, and to 0 if Fundy is then removed (You can check all this thru the scenario editor) Miriam can never be SE research positive, as knowledge (giving a +2 research) is her aversion - she can't run it) G.

Maybe that's why my current game crashed. It was violating the rules.

I'll double-check the game tonight and post it so that seeing is believing. No pun intended.

	21-01-2003 08:54									#5
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How was it violating the rules? You had a 0, which should be fine.

	21-01-2003 09:26									#6
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Ned said he was locked at -2. Anyway, Mir might not be so smart but she is a great thief.

	21-01-2003 09:50									#7
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quote: Originally posted by jimmytrick Ned said he was locked at -2. Anyway, Mir might not be so smart but she is a great thief.

Sorry, mea culpa. When I got home I checked it out. It does indeed change to 0 with Cybernetic.

I must have been seeing things. Still, it would be cool if Miriam could run Fundy without the -2 research penalty.

	21-01-2003 10:32									#8
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Right. It would be cool if Morgan could run Free Market without the -5 POLICE, too.

	21-01-2003 15:04									#9
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Ned playing and posting again, zsozso coming back, JT resurfacing...

I smell an imminent FORUM CRISIS!

	21-01-2003 21:41									#10
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MariOne, There is no game quite like SMACx. I really enjoy playing this game. Ned

	22-01-2003 02:57									#11
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quote: Originally posted by MariOne Ned playing and posting again, zsozso coming back, JT resurfacing... I smell an imminent FORUM CRISIS!

now all we need is for you all to join to ACDG in order to secure more support of free market

	22-01-2003 04:33									#12
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Good to see some familiar names. I'll have to call here more often.

I confess to still disliking playing Miriam as well as the Aliens on random faction games.

	22-01-2003 05:07									#13
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quote: Originally posted by TKG now all we need is for you all to join to ACDG in order to secure more support of free market

Yeah I was over there and saw that the place is dominated by "planners" who seem to think FM is the road to catastrophe.

	22-01-2003 05:53									#14
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mostly planneders who want to switch to green at some point...

	22-01-2003 16:11									#15
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quote: now all we need is for you all to join to ACDG in order to secure more support of free market

Yes please! We lost the last poll on FM by only 3, so if we can get a few more pro-FM players involved, we'll have our revenge

	22-01-2003 16:26									#16
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* Archaic grins at the prospect

Seriously, if we had some name names in there such as yourselves, all voting and campaigning for FM, it'd make a massive difference. There's just no convincing some of these hippies though.

	22-01-2003 16:29									#17
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Bah. As long as we have more votes than them, it won't matter.

	22-01-2003 19:46									#18
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Yes, well, let's just hope we have more votes this time. The "CNN Special Documentry" should help with that........

	24-01-2003 05:58									#19
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"Hippies"?? Why, I oughta...

	24-01-2003 06:41									#20
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Or how a thread about Miriam can evolve to a fascist conspiracy.

	24-01-2003 06:46									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Archaic There's just no convincing some of these hippies though.

Why can we help it we are all ignorant fools who don't understand you have valid claims about knowing the Absolute Truth?

	24-01-2003 07:22									#22
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If this was a fascist conspiracy, we'd be plotting to have kidnapped from your homes in the night and never ehard from again.

	25-01-2003 00:01									#23
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You missed the smilie in my first post. Also notice the absence of such a smilie in my second post.

	25-01-2003 00:38									#24
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Miriam is probably my favorite faction to play. She is always a tough AI competitor. A very "charming" lady, very much in the mold of Osama bin Laden.

	25-01-2003 21:52									#25
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Does anybody else think the Believer symbol looks a bit like a Southpark character?

	25-01-2003 22:56									#26
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Yes, it's very much like Kenny but some silly symbol in his head. Maybe they fired it into Kenny's head during an episode.

OH MY GOD THEY MADE KENNY RELIGIOUS! BASTARDS!

Or not.

	30-01-2003 02:13									#27
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Free Market = TEH SUX.

I mostly play the Gaians, so I don't get many chances to use it, but I don't anyway. I have the unfortunate tendency to carry my personal values over to the game.

	30-01-2003 04:44									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Ned Miriam is probably my favorite faction to play. She is always a tough AI competitor. A very "charming" lady, very much in the mold of Osama bin Laden.

It's my favorite faction to play also Ned. I thought you might get a kick out of that.

	30-01-2003 04:52									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Dr Jekyll Free Market = TEH SUX. I mostly play the Gaians, so I don't get many chances to use it, but I don't anyway. I have the unfortunate tendency to carry my personal values over to the game.

I do to -- so I usually move from planned to free market ASAP (As Soon As Practical).

	30-01-2003 05:10									#30
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Though I am a staunch Morganite, when taking a break from Builder-style play, Miriam is, hands down, my favorite. Her attack and support bonuses are stupendously useful in just overwhelming your foes. Often I'll run her like a builder and just use my extra support, pre-clean, to field an army of formers, and just pave my way to greatness.

Her only real drawback is that you'll almost certainly get beaten out to some of the early wonders, unless you're a) lucky and b) very on the ball with your probe teams. If you don't have _everyone_ infiltrated as Miriam, you're doing something seriously wrong.