21-01-2003 19:57									#1
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They're having Apolyton Hall of fame voting in the OT section.

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...27&pagenumber=1

They always whine about ON-TOPIC posters never winning so maybe we should do something about that.

I'm proposing that we all go there and Vote for War4ever. I already have.

You can vote vote for three people so go ahead and also vote for two other MP players.

Due to our roles as mods in the OT, Ming and I have already been voted in (the suckup factor)

So let's make the voice of MP heard across the site.

RAH

DO it quick, the voting is due to end soon.

	21-01-2003 20:07									#2
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and oedo, poor forgotten oedo

	21-01-2003 20:18									#3
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Damn, I thought oedo was in, I'll have to remember that next time. I voted for Paul for all his OCC work. And war4.

	21-01-2003 21:00									#4
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nope, i checked DC's posts both by eye and by ctrl-F and no mention of oedo before i voted. i dunno if i want to vote for War4 next time though, after all he's just a big spamming beaver

i may vote for the scouse gits though for that hut/special finder thingy and the great library

	21-01-2003 21:32									#5
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Good point on the scouse gits. But you do have three votes.

Maybe next time we'll jump on it earlier. To give On-topic people a chance (specifically CivIIers), we should probably all agree on the people we're voting for so we have a chance against all the OTers.

Sampson comes to mind also.

	21-01-2003 22:04									#6
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yeah but proper use of that third vote is the question. i never followed OCC much, back when it was more active i hadn't even beat deity level yet. who's sampson? one of them early landing guys?

i may vote for war4, there must be something interesting/useful in his thousands and thousands of posts

	21-01-2003 22:48									#7
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Sorry, had to vote for my friends, always have, always will.

	21-01-2003 23:21									#8
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quote: Originally posted by ColdWizard i may vote for war4, there must be something interesting/useful in his thousands and thousands of posts

Hehe. His sp activity may decline soon. I have a sneaking suspicion he wants to get more posts than a certain mod who has posted in this thread....and he is close.

	21-01-2003 23:57									#9
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And I wonder who that might be.
I might need to join a democracy game. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

RAH

	22-01-2003 00:01									#10
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or NationStates

	22-01-2003 00:20									#11
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yes, or NationStates. I will never ever ever sink THAT LOW......
Of Course it's kinda of ironic that Spike is taking war4 to task for spamming.

RAH

	22-01-2003 00:26									#12
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quote: Originally posted by rah Sampson comes to mind also.

samson, you mean?

	22-01-2003 00:35									#13
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quote: Originally posted by rah yes, or NationStates. I will never ever ever sink THAT LOW...... Of Course it's kinda of ironic that Spike is taking war4 to task for spamming. RAH

Oi!

What's NationStates anyway?

	22-01-2003 00:38									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Six Thousand Year Old Man samson, you mean?

Yes, of course I meant samson. Silly me.
You would think, you of all people would understand a "senior moment".

RAH

Spike, check out

http://apolyton.net/forums/forumdis...=173&daysprune=

They've taken SPAM to a whole new level, and I'm actually kind of surprised that you're not a participant.

	22-01-2003 00:44									#15
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quote: Originally posted by rah Yes, of course I meant samson. Silly me. You would think, you of all people would understand a "senior moment". RAH

I thought the name confusion might explain why he's not in the HoF.

samson, oedo, the SG's - all worthy, were I not too old to vote. I've also learned a lot from solo, and DaveV's resource square usage analysis was perhaps the single most crucial piece of wisdom I've received here.

	22-01-2003 00:48									#16
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Wow that is pretty spammy. However, in spite of that, posting there does not appeal to me.

	22-01-2003 01:07									#17
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Yes, I didn't know it existed until my brother pointed it out to me after I made a crack about the democracy games. My only comment was, "and posts in the OT don't count but these do"

Rich

	22-01-2003 01:09									#18
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Isn't discussing spam, spam?

	22-01-2003 01:14									#19
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* ColdWizard finds NationStates moderately interesting due to its RPG aspects

i may vote for samson instead of war4 in the next HoF though. that hut results thread looks interesting after a cursory glance

	22-01-2003 01:31									#20
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quote: Originally posted by ColdWizard * ColdWizard finds NationStates moderately interesting due to its RPG aspects i may vote for samson instead of war4 in the next HoF though. that hut results thread looks interesting after a cursory glance

Take more than a cursory look. It's really useful - you can find out when your odds are best for tipping when looking for nomads, troops, tribes, etc. There's a few good tricks there.

Plus I believe the thread explained why warrior code seems to come up so much in huts (and the chances for any tech coming up) - which was a real revelation to me.

	22-01-2003 01:45									#21
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yeah, like i'd ever remember any of that stuff

i barely remember to check to see if its an oedo year

	22-01-2003 01:51									#22
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BUT, with all the analytical, there's only so much you can do during an MP game, especially early in the game when turns are flying by. What I've gotten out of all the analysis, is GENERAL tendencies. I don't need to know the exact payoff of a trade route, just in general, what's going to pay off better. (i.e. setting your early cities so you can road them properly to max the road connect bonus using phantom roads.) I don't need to know the exact percentage of getting a nomad, just that if I have less than 8 cities, I probably should create a city with my existing nomad if I expect to get one our of hut. I don't need to calculate every supplies/demands change, just that I know they will change and what terrain offers better percentages. I no longer send caravans a long distance when I know the demand is probably going to change due to city growth.

So while I applaud ALL of the great research that all the people have done, it's total use is impractical in a quick moving MP game. But the generalities and tendencies predicted have been QUITE helpful.

RAH

	22-01-2003 05:55									#23
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quote: Originally posted by rah yes, or NationStates. I will never ever ever sink THAT LOW...... RAH

I don't see why you say this. Low maintenance (not time consuming), and one can see how their policies have effect.

But then, I think Civ 3 was a blatant rip-off, so there you go.

	22-01-2003 06:40									#24
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The problem with N.S. is that it's pretty limited.

I keep getting the same issues over and over again.

And the server seems to have picked up in the last few days. It was dreadfully slow, and the forums just don't turn me on at all.

I like to back up my tough talk with action, not just more talk...

	22-01-2003 06:49									#25
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eh? whats going on in here....?

	22-01-2003 06:49									#26
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I guess you can be counted on to not flame Bush and Blair ?

	22-01-2003 07:20									#27
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i too applaud all the research...but for practicality sakes, most of its not really relevant to mp....more to large sp games, or OCC....

but then again, the beauty of civ is its ability to appeal to so many different people on so many different levels

	22-01-2003 08:37									#28
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quote: Originally posted by War4ever i too applaud all the research...but for practicality sakes, most of its not really relevant to mp....more to large sp games, or OCC.... but then again, the beauty of civ is its ability to appeal to so many different people on so many different levels

If that doesn't sound like a politician looking for votes, I don't know what does.

Shameless...

	22-01-2003 11:16									#29
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hmmmmm...for some strange reason my name isn't on there.

	22-01-2003 11:59									#30
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they did the most hated fan club last year Sean...i think you strat, AH, and a few others were on it....