22-01-2003 04:03									#1
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short bit of what it says about the HPM


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THE US is ready to use an ultra-secret new weapon against Iraq - a massive man-made lightning bolt with the power of a hydro-electric dam.

The high-powered microwave (HPM) device, carried by a cruise missile, would burn out the guidance systems of Saddam Hussein's biological and chemical weapons.

The HPM is the result of a four-year research program and although only at the experimental stage, senior Pentagon officials confirmed it would be used.

As the missile reaches its target, the HPM would send out incredibly powerful microwaves and "fry" the electronic innards of every computer or microchip device within a thousand feet in any direction.

The weapon will unleash, in a flash, as much electrical power - 2 billion watts or more - as the world's biggest dams can generate in 24 hours.
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I think this is pretty cool

	22-01-2003 04:05									#2
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Good thing we're keeping this a secret.

	22-01-2003 04:19									#3
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quote: Sources involved with the microwave program say it is still not certain what effect the waves will have on people. At the very least, they will heat the water in living cells and create an "uncomfortable sensation", although only for a very brief period.

They're going to cook all the Iraqi's.

This would have a devastating effect on the environment IMHO.

	22-01-2003 04:21									#4
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Wouldn't something like this give cancer? Or is cancer only caused by something over a long period?

	22-01-2003 04:22									#5
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quote: ultra-secret new weapon

	22-01-2003 04:23									#6
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Trying out new experimental weaponry on Iraquis. That's what that psycho Bush wants. Sick ****.

	22-01-2003 04:25									#7
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Well, we do it to ourselves already with cell phone antennas. What's good for us must be good for them...

	22-01-2003 04:29									#8
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Cyclo, their is a difference between a cellphone antennae and a 2 billion watt brust of energy.

I think that everyone around would be sterile, if not cooked and dead.

	22-01-2003 04:32									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Grrr I think that everyone around would be sterile, if not cooked and dead.

This time the american soldiers with be equipped with knives, forks and barbecue sauce.

	22-01-2003 04:48									#10
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Is it OK for the US to be developing highly-deadly weapon's of mass destruction?

	22-01-2003 04:50									#11
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FP: NO ... we must attack them immediately ... especially because they don't let UN Weapon's inspectors in.

	22-01-2003 04:50									#12
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"Sources involved with the microwave program say it is still not certain what effect the waves will have on people.

At the very least, they will heat the water in living cells and create an "uncomfortable sensation", although only for a very brief period.

But HPMs could also knock out heart pacemakers and critical electrical systems in hospitals or aboard aircraft.

A Pentagon source admitted: "No doubt there will be some unintended victims."

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US Air Force Colonel Eileen Walling said: "There are signs that microwave weapons will represent a revolutionary concept for warfare, principally because they are designed to incapacitate equipment rather than humans."

She was backed by weapons specialist Professor John Moore, of the University of Virginia.

"You may be talking about a weapon here that is the sort of ultimate (for) saving people - that is, putting weapons systems out of operation while not killing the people," he said.



This'll go over well with the international community.
I've heard of talking out of both sides of your mouth...

...But talking out of both sides of your ass?

	22-01-2003 06:16									#13
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quote: The high-powered microwave (HPM) device, carried by a cruise missile, would burn out the guidance systems of Saddam Hussein's biological and chemical weapons.

...but will it also cook my food faster?

	22-01-2003 06:31									#14
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Well, to be fair, there are always unintended victims in war. How is using a HPM device on a weapons site, which may hurt people, worse than using a bomb on a weapons site, which will kill people? If the USA is going to invade Iraq, I don't see how this new weapon is a negative thing...

	22-01-2003 06:39									#15
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Somehow I doubt that the US is going to let SAM sites and such just sit there after a HPM strike...

	22-01-2003 06:46									#16
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Jaakko is right ... they'd be to easy to repair.

And also ... wouldn't it be wise just to put everything in concrete buildings that is important.

	22-01-2003 06:54									#17
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What if the process of "frying" the electronics causes something to go off prematurely?


Not that the people using it would care, of course...

	22-01-2003 07:18									#18
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we'd be in a world of hurt if someone used this weapon on american cities.

Our economy would crumble instantly.

	22-01-2003 07:58									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Jaakko Somehow I doubt that the US is going to let SAM sites and such just sit there after a HPM strike...

That's why it's not targeting SAM sites, but Saddam's supposed WoMD.

Anyway, I think the idea is not to keep them from operating them indefinitly, but to knock them out temporarily in the initial stages of the war, to stop retaliation against our troops and Israel by way of scuds or WoMD.

Besides, the US wants to capture his WoMD for further proof, not vaporize them.

	22-01-2003 08:24									#20
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I'd rather NOT hear about military secrets... it makes me really uncomfortable to know them... dont you just sense something is wrong if you know about a secret that easily?

	22-01-2003 08:46									#21
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High powered microwave beams are very dangerous to living organisms.

I can't tell if this works along the same lines as EMP bombs, but it doesn't look that way. In fact, I am not sure if it actually works as advertised.

	22-01-2003 08:51									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident we'd be in a world of hurt if someone used this weapon on american cities. Our economy would crumble instantly.

If it works, that is. But you are right. It also works very well against the US military.

	22-01-2003 09:49									#23
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Sounds freaken cool, I hope it works as planned.

Still against the war, but I wanna see this thing in action. hehe.

	22-01-2003 10:44									#24
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I don't think this will affect shielded PC's.

	22-01-2003 11:13									#25
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It sounds like interesting technology, but I find it very difficult to believe that 2 billion W of radiation capable of frying electronics in a 1000 feet radius (it has to start out with a high enough frequency such that its not too damped out by the air) is going to cause nothing more than an "uncomfortable sensation" to the people near the explosion.

It's true that transistors don't have much tolerance for extra current, but I'm skeptical.

quote: I can't tell if this works along the same lines as EMP bombs, but it doesn't look that way.

Why do you say that? It by definition is an EMP bomb...

	22-01-2003 11:27									#26
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quote: I don't think this will affect shielded PC's.

Faraday cages can only effectively shield certain frequency bands of radiation. So unless these weapons are really crappy, the PC's will be affected.