23-01-2003 03:19									#1
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I'm interested in playing a new PBEM game. I don't know anyone who will be a moderator. Anyone else looking for a new game?

	24-01-2003 14:54									#2
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Can you tell me what sort of game you have in mind? Then if I'm still interested, I'll declare what faction I want to be.

	25-01-2003 01:56									#3
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	25-01-2003 02:03									#5
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Sorry Arcainite. Let me get right back to you? If there are particular settings that you want I'm open.

	25-01-2003 02:31									#6
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Ok, how is this to start with?

Large planet with 50 to 70% ocean coverage.
All the other planet settings on average.

Difficulty on thinker.

The following rules selected;
All victory conditions
Do or Die
Look First
No Unity Survey
Bell Curve

I like to play as the Believers. I think we should take turns selecting the AI players. I don't really like to play with the Caretakers in the game, but I will if you so desire.

edit: I'm assuming you have SMAX, but SMAC is of with me.

	26-01-2003 06:48									#7
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i'm interested in joining.
rules and map : anything goes for me

faction: would prefer HIVE if we play SMAC, the pirates if SMAX, but then again if they are no available, no problem, give me any faction.

	26-01-2003 14:20									#8
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I am interested in a PBEM game. I would prefer the Pirates if SMAX (unless it's decided nobody can play them for balance) or the Data Angels. If Native Life is abundant, I would consider playing the Gaians.

I could also moderate this game if you cannot find anyone (this might be a good move so I can watch a PBEM evolve). I could do the typical hands off, or I could do multiple starts till a good map was generated and place everybody more or less equally. While I'm no expert, I can do a better job than the SMAC starting place AI does.

If I may suggest it, use the Aliens as AI's and Transcend simply because that gives a good, tough AI opponent. The only drawback is if they randomly get put next door to you at the start.

	26-01-2003 17:08									#9
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I'll try the Cult of Planet. I'm trying factions I have never played before. If we play original, I'll just be the University. My e-mail is Arcainite@aol.com.
Arcainite

	26-01-2003 20:08									#10
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How about an anti-research hybrid game.

We have possible volunteers for the Believers, the Hive and Cult of Planet. I'll take a shot at Domai. Play transcend to make the AI tough, though I'm open to Librarian. Use the Aliens as tough AI's. Add the Spartans for the last AI, or if you want something really macabre add in the Cybernetics, because nobody will want to let the others conquer them (University is too easy to probe). Akin to the ultimate secret project, conquer the Cybernetics :-)

Do want want to permit tech via base conquest? I normally turn it off, and it will make tech just that much more valuable. If we don't get a moderator, can I suggest we play "Do or Die" as a game rule, but turn it off to give people a chance to redo their starting position if it really sucks (I've never tried it, but I understand you can eliminate all your starting units and then restart again). I've started a solo game on a twelve square almost desert island. The game made up for it by giving me two colony pods and no transport, and my first supply pod had worms.

	26-01-2003 22:15									#11
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This is started to sould like a fun game. You are all choosing my favorite factions.

There is one thing I suggest. If we don't have a moderator I would not like to have the Caretakers in the game. They can be tough when they are placed right next to you.

Transcend level is ok with me. That may be good for the Hive player, or is there a Hive player.

Let me right down who I think people want to play in a SMAC game.

DuncanK-Believers
Sevencubed-Pirates (anyone object?)
Shawnmmcc-Drones
Arcanite-Cult of Planet

Shawnmmcc,

We don't have a moderator right now, and I don't know if I can find one. If you want to moderate that is ok, but you don't have to. I think the only team that may need good starting position is the Drones, since it takes them awhile to research their first important techs. The other factions can make due easily, with the possible exception of the Believers.

I agree with having the tougher factions in it. It's too easy when someone has a wimp next to them in the early game to make their quick submisive. Everyone agree? But if we don't have a moderator its ok to put wimps in and leave it up to luck. After all winningg isn't everything. Someone is bound to get some advantage and its fun to try and take them down regardless.

	27-01-2003 02:08									#12
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my email is full_throttlegr@yahoo.com

	27-01-2003 10:12									#13
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Definitely agreeable to everything except with that mix and the Pirates. Especially at 50-70% ocean coverage. Unless a Pirate player gets unlucky, or the Cult or Gaians get early mobility and IOD captures, they are one of the toughest factions. If sevencubed would agree to the Hive, the game would be more balanced. I figure with the Drones I won't win, but at least it will be interesting :-)

	27-01-2003 11:00									#14
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Maybe sevencubed will agree. I personally have had very close games with very good players here under similar conditions when they played the Pirates, but either way is good for me.

Anyway, if they will be to powerfull we can all work together to keep them in check

	27-01-2003 21:19									#15
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Yes, I could CMN this game for you. This is what I have so far. Any changes?
In my opinion the Pirates would not unbalance the game so I will leave them in for now unless I hear otherwise.
I need DuncanK e-mail address, didn’t see it within the thread.


DuncanK – Believers -
Arcainite – Cult - Arcainite@aol.com
Sevencubed – Pirates - full_throttlegr@yahoo.com
Shawnmmcc – Drones - shawnmmcc@hotmail.com

CMN – Shadowlord3 – dmshadowlord3@yahoo.com

Large planet
50-70% water
Average everything else
The following rules selected;
All victory conditions
Do or Die
Look First
No Unity Survey
Bell Curve
Aliens are in the game

SL3

	28-01-2003 00:24									#16
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Thanks SL3,

Here's my email dunkil@msn.com

	28-01-2003 00:27									#17
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Oh, and plz don't put the Caretakers too close to me

	28-01-2003 00:30									#18
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Oh, and maybe we can make less ocean coverage. Less ocean will give the rest of us a more equal shot at exploration.

	28-01-2003 00:49									#19
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Ooh, can I join in as well please?

	28-01-2003 03:13									#20
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ok with me

	28-01-2003 16:58									#21
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I'm fine with another player. Since it looks like we're going to have the pirates, I'll take the Data Angels as per my first post unless the CMN says that would be too unbalanced, I'll trust his judgement.

	28-01-2003 20:33									#22
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as far as the pirates are concerned, i have no objection to playing with another faction.

Shadowlord3 feel free to arrange any faction for me! no problem.

	29-01-2003 00:38									#23
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Gibsie,

Give you email address please.

	29-01-2003 00:39									#24
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oh, and which faction do you want. We are kind of going with an aggresive factions theme. You may get tore up early if you pick a builder faction

	29-01-2003 01:54									#25
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E-mail: daniel_gibbons@hotmail.com

If hotmail isn't gonna be good enough, bs01dg@surrey.ac.uk

I'd like to play as the Spartans.

Also... umm... I'm going on a brief holiday on the 17th of February until the 22nd, so if that's going to ruin the game which I expect it will, you might as well count me out. Unless I can have the CPU/ another human take over.

	29-01-2003 02:32									#26
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I don't think that a 5-day delay will ruin the game if it happens once in a while.

	29-01-2003 03:22									#27
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People are bound to take holidays, and of couse should not be prevented from doing so

	29-01-2003 03:51									#28
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I'm great with Spartans - I'll send Shadowlord an email on it. I'll take Domai then if sevencubed is Hive. I won't win, but dang I'll have fun. I'm going to suggest the name "no-brainer" game for a tracking thread, as in our shall we say weakness with research. Think about it, the Spartans may be our best researchers :-) Could DuncanK set it up?

	29-01-2003 03:57									#29
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That's good to hear

...what's this about being great with the Spartans? Great at destroying them..?

	29-01-2003 04:09									#30
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No, I just think they fit in the game. Think about it, you are our university, our arrogant military industrial complex - and me married to a doctoral student (sigh). By the way, where are the destructions on inserting smilies, I've tried but I just get them in text, it's probably something I didn't turn on when I joined the forum - I was in a rush because I was on my lunch break at work :-)