24-01-2003 07:41									#181
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BTW in that other thread I forgot to point out also that the "empire" had, besides - its apartheid system on the island - "imported" thousands of cheap labour (turks from mainland turkey) to cyprus hence exubarating the demographic problem and enhancing turkey's claim (which was security) . just though you should know that too

	24-01-2003 07:42									#182
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My favorite Canadian song...

There was a time in this fair land when the railroad did not run
When the wild majestic mountains stood alone against the sun
Long before the white man and long before the wheel
When the green dark forest was too silent to be real

But time has no beginnings and hist'ry has no bounds
As to this verdant country they came from all around
They sailed upon her waterways and they walked the forests tall
Built the mines the mills and the factories for the good of us all

And when the young man's fancy was turnin' in the spring
The railroad men grew restless for to hear the hammers ring
Their minds were overflowing with the visions of their day
And many a fortune won and lost and many a debt to pay

For they looked in the future and what did they see
They saw an iron road runnin' from sea to the sea
Bringin' the goods to a young growin' land
All up through the seaports and into their hands

Look away said they across this mighty land
From the eastern shore to the western strand
Bring in the workers and bring up the rails
We gotta lay down the tracks and tear up the trails
Open 'er heart let the life blood flow
Gotta get on our way 'cause we're movin' too slow

Bring in the workers and bring up the rails
We're gonna lay down the tracks and tear up the trails
Open 'er heart let the life blood flow
Gotta get on our way 'cause we're movin' too slow
Get on our way 'cause we're movin' too slow

Behind the blue Rockies the sun is declinin'
The stars, they come stealin' at the close of the day
Across the wide prairie our loved ones lie sleeping
Beyond the dark oceans in a place far away

We are the navvies who work upon the railway
Swingin' our hammers in the bright blazin' sun
Livin' on stew and drinkin' bad whiskey
Bendin' our old backs 'til the long days are done

We are the navvies who work upon the railway
Swingin' our hammers in the bright blazin' sun
Layin' down track and buildin' the bridges
Bendin' our old backs 'til the railroad is done

So over the mountains and over the plains
Into the muskeg and into the rain
Up the St. Lawrence all the way to Gaspe
Swingin' our hammers and drawin' our pay
Drivin' 'em in and tyin' 'em down
Away to the bunkhouse and into the town
A dollar a day and a place for my head
A drink to the livin' and a toast to the dead

Oh the song of the future has been sung
All the battles have been won
O'er the mountain tops we stand
All the world at our command
We have opened up the soil
With our teardrops and our toil

For there was a time in this fair land when the railroad did not run
When the wild majestic mountains stood alone against the sun
Long before the white man and long before the wheel
When the green dark forest was too silent to be real
When the green dark forest was too silent to be real
And many are the dead men too silent to be real

	24-01-2003 07:47									#183
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well according to most americans i've met canadians are just , err, stupid

	24-01-2003 07:52									#184
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quote: Originally posted by Comrade Tribune How about : You got our misfits who somehow escaped their rightful fate of being twisted to a wheel,

I see...you believe people should be persecuted, even tortured, if they do not fit your view of normalcy, then?

	24-01-2003 07:55									#185
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quote: Originally posted by The Mad Monk I see...you believe people should be persecuted, even tortured, if they do not fit your view of normalcy, then?

I see you always take everything you read literally, then?

	24-01-2003 07:56									#186
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quote: Originally posted by The Mad Monk My favorite Canadian song... There was a time in this fair land when the railroad did not run

The Railroad trilogy by G. Lightfoot- Excellent

The French really hate the "Maple Leaf Forever"

	24-01-2003 07:57									#187
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sorry ozz, i dont think anyone knows you enough to care
i think you just flatter yourself very ackwardly

now be a good toy and bend over for your masters again (US)

	24-01-2003 08:03									#188
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and you should not plagiarize poems ts,ts,ts

Here Stewarts once in glory reign'd,
And laws for Scotland's weal ordain'd;
But now unroof'd their palace stands,
Their sceptre fallen to other hands:
Fallen indeed, and to the earth,
Whence grovelling reptiles take their birth!
The injured Stewart line is gone,
A race outlandish fills their throne:
An idiot race, to honour lost -
Who know them best despise them most.




here have a real one


The isles of Greece, the isles of Greece! Where burning Sappho loved and sung, Where grew the arts of war and peace, Where Delos rose, and Phoebus sprung! Eternal summer gilds them yet, But all, except their sun, is set...

The mountains look on Marathon-- And Marathon looks on the sea; And musing there an hour alone, I dreamed that Greece might still be free; For standing on the Persians' grave, I could not deem myself a slave.

A king sat on the rocky brow Which looks o'er sea-born Salamis; And ships, by thousands, lay below, And men in nations--all were his! He counted them at break of day-- And when the sun set, where were they?

And where are they? And where art thou? My country? On thy voiceless shore The heroic lay is tuneless now-- The heroic bosom beats no more! And must thy lyre, so long divine, Degenerate into hands like mine?

'Tis something, in the dearth of fame, Though linked among a fettered race, To feel at least a patriot's shame, Even as I sing, suffuse my face; For what is left the poet here? For Greeks a blush--for Greece a tear...

Fill high the bowl with Samian wine! Our virgins dance beneath the shade-- I see their glorious black eyes shine; But gazing on each glowing maid, My own the burning teardrop laves, To think such breasts must suckle slaves.

Place me on Sunium's marbled steep, Where nothing, save the waves and I, May hear our mutual murmurs sweep; There, swanlike, let me sing and die: A land of slaves shall ne'er be mine-- Dash down yon cup of Samian wine!

	24-01-2003 08:03									#189
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quote: Originally posted by Comrade Tribune I see you always take everything you read literally, then?

Ah. You don't actually mean what you write. That explains a lot.

	24-01-2003 08:04									#190
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France only has influence when there are blockages to be made. When the action occurs, they aren't part of it and lose their platform. France is a country that thinks it has influence that it no longer has.

	24-01-2003 08:05									#191
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Paiktis, do all Greek poems rhyme in English?

	24-01-2003 08:11									#192
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 sorry ozz, i dont think anyone knows you enough to care i think you just flatter yourself very ackwardly now be a good toy and bend over for your masters again (US)

If you can't put some wit and thought into your posts
I won't waste my time answering, Not only are you
posting mindless dribble, but your last 4 posts don't even tie in to the thread topic. If you want to talk
Cyprus open the thread up again and i'll grind you
to powder (with facts and logic) again.

Otherwise post something bashing or insulting to
the French. No more quotes or poems for you, your not
worth it.

	24-01-2003 08:11									#193
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MM, that is Byron

	24-01-2003 08:15									#194
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 and you should not plagiarize poems ts,ts,ts

Never claimed authorship

	24-01-2003 08:17									#195
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Mad Monk, if I were to post Greek poems, rhyming would be the least of your concerns

The Isles of Greece - Lord Byron

ozz, it's called playing with ignorants.

(observe: )
and in those threads you were beaten to the groundboth times. like the savage colonials were blowed away from the island.
history repeats itself.

	24-01-2003 08:31									#196
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 and in those threads you were beaten to the groundboth times. like the savage colonials were blowed away from the island. history repeats itself.

Well open her up then, Chickenheart
And quit jackin' this thread

	24-01-2003 08:36									#197
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I always wondered about it while reading classical literature in translation -- you know, the words are different, syntax are different, yet what you read in translation always has what appears to be a proper meter -- even though that shouldn't be possible, if you stay faithful to the original. Is what we read actually a translation, or somethig better considered a paraphrasing?

The most egregious example of this I've seen was a collection of classical Greek comedies, where not only did the meter work and the words rhyme, but there were unstandable puns. Puns!

	24-01-2003 08:50									#198
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quote: Originally posted by Ozz If you can't put some wit and thought into your posts I won't waste my time answering, Not only are you posting mindless dribble, but your last 4 posts don't even tie in to the thread topic. If you want to talk Cyprus open the thread up again and i'll grind you to powder (with facts and logic) again. Otherwise post something bashing or insulting to the French. No more quotes or poems for you, your not worth it.

Easy there Ozzy. Paiktis just enjoys trolling the new guys ever now and then. Since you are ranked as a settler he knew you were an easy mark.

BTW Paki is imfamous for his ability to threadjack. With practice you'll learn and he'll leave you alone.

	24-01-2003 09:17									#199
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back towards topic...


1. When speaking fast you can make yourself sound gay.
2. Experience the joy of winning the World Cup for the first time
3. You get to eat insect food like snails and frog's legs.
4. If there's a war you can surrender really early.
5. You don't have to read the subtitles on those late night films on Channel 4.
6. You can test your own nuclear weapons in other people's countries.
7. You can be ugly and still become a famous film star.
8. Allow Germans to march up and down your most famous street humiliating your sense of national pride.
9. You don't have to bother with toilets, just **** in the street.
10. People think you're a great lover even when you're not.

I think some of them could be indications of stereotypical malfunctions of the subject nationality.

	24-01-2003 09:27									#200
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Yes, and think of all the money you'd save never having to bath.

	24-01-2003 16:41									#201
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And you talk about Europeans stereotyping Americans

	24-01-2003 16:49									#202
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Wernazuma: This is a bash the French thread. Using stupid jingoist stereotypes is not only expected but they are encouraged. Come on and join in. You'll have fun.

	24-01-2003 17:17									#203
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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither back towards topic... 1. When speaking fast you can make yourself sound gay. 2. Experience the joy of winning the World Cup for the first time 3. You get to eat insect food like snails and frog's legs. 4. If there's a war you can surrender really early. 5. You don't have to read the subtitles on those late night films on Channel 4. 6. You can test your own nuclear weapons in other people's countries. 7. You can be ugly and still become a famous film star. 8. Allow Germans to march up and down your most famous street humiliating your sense of national pride. 9. You don't have to bother with toilets, just **** in the street. 10. People think you're a great lover even when you're not. I think some of them could be indications of stereotypical malfunctions of the subject nationality.

ABSURD
SCANDALOUS
HOW DARE YOU

snails and frogs are NOT insects!!!

	24-01-2003 17:21									#204
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He's got you there NYE!

	24-01-2003 17:22									#205
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Zuma: Of course if you don't want to bash the French you could always start an American bashing thread. I like making fun of rednecks myself.

	24-01-2003 19:40									#206
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin Easy there Ozzy. Paiktis just enjoys trolling the new guys ever now and then. Since you are ranked as a settler he knew you were an easy mark. BTW Paki is imfamous for his ability to threadjack. With practice you'll learn and he'll leave you alone.

You give him more credit than due.

I do see a pattern, a couple of reasonable posts,
then mindless dribble until the thread dies, like this
one. Threadjack, threadkiller is more like it.

I've shown him the crappy sh*t greece is responsible for, that's why he tries to drag each thread back to Cyprus. But he won't reopen that thread. , and
til he does i won't respond to any of his posts.

	24-01-2003 20:49									#207
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quote: Originally posted by Ozz The Railroad trilogy by G. Lightfoot- Excellent The French really hate the "Maple Leaf Forever"

Why would the French care ?

	24-01-2003 21:05									#208
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quote: Originally posted by Richelieu Why would the French care ?

I honesty don't know, I think it has to do with Wolfe
reminding them of the "conquest". (which I don't understand eithier, it was about cutting supplies
of cod,furs, and Naval timber to france, not aimed
specifically at conquering Quebec for Quebec's sake.)

Also the Fluer de iles is not entined.

The song has been neutered and rewritten, and a PC
plagiarized version is sung by A. Murray at hockey games.

Wolfe the dauntless hero came
And planted firm Britannia's flag
On Canada's fair domain.
Here may it wave,
Our boast, our pride,
And join in love together,
The thistle, shamrock, rose entwined,
The Maple Leaf Forever

	24-01-2003 21:15									#209
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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither back towards topic... 1. When speaking fast you can make yourself sound gay. 2. Experience the joy of winning the World Cup for the first time 3. You get to eat insect food like snails and frog's legs. 4. If there's a war you can surrender really early. 5. You don't have to read the subtitles on those late night films on Channel 4. 6. You can test your own nuclear weapons in other people's countries. 7. You can be ugly and still become a famous film star. 8. Allow Germans to march up and down your most famous street humiliating your sense of national pride. 9. You don't have to bother with toilets, just **** in the street. 10. People think you're a great lover even when you're not. I think some of them could be indications of stereotypical malfunctions of the subject nationality.

That list is 5 years out of date, #2 no longer applies.

I still prefer the Canada list:

quote: 1. It beats being an American. 2. The only country to successfully invade the US and burn its capital to the ground. 3. You can play ice hockey 12 months a year, outdoors. 4. The only country to successfully invade the US and burn its capital to the ground. 5. Where else can you travel 1,000 miles over fresh water in a canoe? 6. A political leader can admit to smoking pot and his/her popularity ratings will rise. 7. The only country to successfully invade the US and burn its capital to the ground. 8. You can kill Grizzly bears with huge shotguns and cover your house in their skins. 9. Own-an-Eskimo scheme. 10. The only country to successfully invade the US and burn its capital to the ground

	24-01-2003 21:42									#210
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Definitely true (particularly the shots at the US. Canadian identity does seem strongly associated with NOT being American).

-Arrian