23-01-2003 05:55									#1
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I'm particularly interested in patches to improve multiplayer.

	23-01-2003 06:57									#2
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Haven't heard anything about another patch yet. Just the 1.14 for PtW.

	23-01-2003 07:12									#3
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last i heard they were testing a patch, but that was a while ago.

maybe they're patching the path for the patch.

	23-01-2003 07:21									#4
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Once the next patch comes out, and the MP lag is fixed, I will then start actually playing online, until then...

A heads-up would be appreciated

	24-01-2003 02:42									#5
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Bump. Anyone from Firaxis every come here and give a heads up on upcoming patches?

olaf

	24-01-2003 03:12									#6
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There must be lag at Firaxis...

	25-01-2003 00:52									#7
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Or maybe theyve fixed it and are playing between themselves!

	25-01-2003 05:58									#8
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I'm hoping the technology will evolve to the point where people can build their own games.

	25-01-2003 08:56									#9
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People can build their own games now. All you need is a C++ compiler (well, it doesn't have to be C++), a paint program, and maybe some animation software. And a few thousand hours.

	25-01-2003 09:39									#10
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quote: Originally posted by UberKruX last i heard they were testing a patch, but that was a while ago. maybe they're patching the path for the patch.

Didn't they do that last year for Civ 3 with those four patches??

	25-01-2003 17:56									#11
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I am very disappointed that Firaxis does not give us any clue whether there will be a new patch at all. I mean.... no patch for MP means switching to another game for me. Many MP players already are gone or are awaiting such a patch. The MP forum is almost dead (if not for my posts. ). Even those that said the MP was playable seem to have left.

I remember that somewhere in December there were rumours about a new patch but that is soooo long ago that I doubt we will ever see it. Instead Infogrames announced an "European collectors edition"???? I do not want to collect CIV games. I want to play the MP game I payed for.

Come on Firaxis. Give us some info here. Am I wasting my time or will you guys fix the game at some point in time?

	25-01-2003 18:18									#12
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Repeat after me:

A) MP is not broken.

B) If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

A + B = Do we need a patch?



-=Vel=-

	25-01-2003 20:12									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Franses I am very disappointed that Firaxis does not give us any clue whether there will be a new patch at all. I mean.... no patch for MP means switching to another game for me. Many MP players already are gone or are awaiting such a patch. The MP forum is almost dead (if not for my posts. ). Even those that said the MP was playable seem to have left. I remember that somewhere in December there were rumours about a new patch but that is soooo long ago that I doubt we will ever see it. Instead Infogrames announced an "European collectors edition"???? I do not want to collect CIV games. I want to play the MP game I payed for. Come on Firaxis. Give us some info here. Am I wasting my time or will you guys fix the game at some point in time?

December was "soooo long ago"!?! It hasn't even been a month yet. The reason that companies do not give any information regarding patches or release dates for patches is because they will be crucified if they miss the date by so much as a day. Plus, with the over-the-top criticism they receive by some, could you blame they if they take some extra time to try to address as much as possible in the next patch, rather than release several smaller fix patches?

I would safely assume by Firaxis' past actions that they will patch the game. They did for Civ3.

	25-01-2003 20:26									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Argos65987 December was "soooo long ago"!?! It hasn't even been a month

You are correct. I should have added that at that time it was said to come SOON.

quote: Originally posted by Argos65987 The reason that companies do not give any information regarding patches or release dates for patches is because they will be crucified if they miss the date by so much as a day.

But they do give release dates. And change them if needed. And many (most?) of us prefer a finished game to a game released to early so who cares if they miss the date? At least we know something.

quote: Originally posted by Argos65987 I would safely assume by Firaxis' past actions that they will patch the game. They did for Civ3.

I do hope so Argos and it is why I am one of the few still playing MP but..... it takes a long time to deliver the MP promised on the box and that worries me a lot.

	25-01-2003 22:12									#15
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Firaxis has been burned by giving release dates for patches before and being slammed by the fans for missing it, so they don't give them anymore. They are working on a patch for PTW, trust me. It'll be done when it's done.

	26-01-2003 00:26									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Velociryx Repeat after me: A) MP is not broken. B) If it ain't broke, don't fix it. A + B = Do we need a patch? -=Vel=-

Vel:

i have a freind that goes to George Washington University, I am @ RPI in Troy NY, i have another friend @ MIT, and another @ cornell.

everyone can play except the kid in GW. he has a ping of 70 but whenever he joins the game lags to all hell.

the kid plays warcraft3 with us with no lag. i dont understand

	26-01-2003 02:05									#17
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Hey!

We need ability for setting diplomacy in scenrios.

That's something that needs the patch.

P.S.
Also, I've heard that Japanise scenario will be finished before next patch.

	26-01-2003 05:30									#18
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Looks like they gave up on MP.

	26-01-2003 06:25									#19
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No, MP and bug fixes are the main thing that's being addressed by the patch. No major new enhancements (although if Mike Fetterman gets his Japanese Scenario finished it might be thrown in).

	26-01-2003 06:30									#20
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If Horse's previous statements regarding the laws of Oz are correct, and they are the reason for the PTW holdup there, then the patch will be released shortly before the 7th of February, as that is the PTW Aus release. But that is pure speculation.

	26-01-2003 06:59									#21
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What is the source of your information Warpstorm?

	26-01-2003 08:37									#22
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He's a PTW beta.

	26-01-2003 09:48									#23
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Warpstorm,

Please consider some of the suggestions given in this thread. Thank you.

	26-01-2003 16:22									#24
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quote: Originally posted by asleepathewheel then the patch will be released shortly before the 7th of February, as that is the PTW Aus release. But that is pure speculation.

Hope that is true though.

	27-01-2003 01:03									#25
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Lets not fools ourselves here, MP is broken. Some of us may be getting away fine with the way things are but others are not so fortunate. I played a LAN game, my friend had a 5 ping, there was great amounts of lag and we never got to finish our game b/c it eventually lost its connection. Sad but true.
The thought of the patch coming out in the next couple weeks makes me all warm inside...

	27-01-2003 10:36									#26
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Warpstorm:

I presume there must be still some major patching for the Editor as there are many things (ie diplomacy, certain city options) which need to be included to be able to make complete scenarios. Do you know if this is to be addressed too? (since I don't play MP otherwise I think the game is almost perfect)

	27-01-2003 15:10									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Trip He's a PTW beta.

PTW was beta tested?

	27-01-2003 21:28									#28
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quote: Originally posted by raguil_79 I presume there must be still some major patching for the Editor as there are many things (ie diplomacy, certain city options) which need to be included to be able to make complete scenarios.

The patch will only address bugs/MP, it is doubtful to include new features.

	28-01-2003 02:29									#29
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Just because it was tested doesn't mean it passed all the tests.

	28-01-2003 03:37									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Argos65987 The patch will only address bugs/MP, it is doubtful to include new features.

Editing scenario diplomacy is something in Firaxis to-do-it list.
While events editor is in Firaxis wish-list.

Do-it-list: probably in future patches
Wish-list: proabably in some new XP, if ever