24-01-2003 20:10									#31
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I am horrible at being an aggressive pick-up guy, as I tend to get really shy. So I generally rely on getting picked up, which seems to work well enough.

The strangest place I've ever picked up a guy was at Sardis when I went to the after party for the opening night of Bea Arthur's one-woman show last year. We circled the room, smiling at each other for a good while before I finally went up to him and asked him his name. We exchanged numbers with Rue McClanahan standing 2 feet away from me.

	24-01-2003 20:16									#32
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touch there asses....and grab there hooters

	24-01-2003 20:19									#33
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Smooth, FG.

	24-01-2003 20:21									#34
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No wonder you keep getting smacked upside the head, fg.

	24-01-2003 20:22									#35
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Your right, it is very smooth,soft, and curvy

	24-01-2003 20:26									#36
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"No wonder you keep getting smacked upside the head, fg."

Ha! You have no idea bub. I get way more than most of you here. My green 'eyes' are sooo cute. And my bod is killer.

Oh yes. My problem is I never grew up. I still flirt with girls. But ooohh.. Im almost 30 and losing my touch

	24-01-2003 20:32									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger The only problem is, a lot of ACS men don't know what to say after "Hello" - that includes me. Fortunately, I didn't need to use it.

"My name is... " tends to be a good follow up.

(general, not directed to UR in particular): But seriously: You know, they're only girls. They aren't going to kill you if they aren't interested. Striking up a conversation with a strange female isn't all that different from striking up a conversation with a strange guy... I don't really know what the problem is.

For example... assume college boy and single girl are standing in a long line at the grocery store...

CB: "Hi. How ya' doing?"
....
"Good. I'm fine, thank you. Place is busy, isn't it?"
....
"Well, I'm in a hurry too as I've gotta get back to feed my puppy before class/work. Where do you work/what class are you late for?"
...
"Oh, I had that. I didn't really care for my teacher either: what do you think of him/her?"
...
"So, how are you doing?"
and so on, until you get up to the counter.
"Well, I'll see you later. My name is JohnT, by the way. Hey, do you mind if I get your number?" or "If you're having trouble in the class, I will be glad to meet you in the library so we can go over my notes - when would be a good time for you?"

See? It's pretty easy, as long as you continually show that you are interested in her. And how do you do that? Leave the true substance of the conversation up to her by asking her questions that flow with the conversation. Ask her questions, listen, and let the conversation flow from what she is telling you. Only give a forceful opinion in response to hers - don't give your opinion on a subject (especially a negative opinion!) until she expresses her: if you do, go ahead and assume that you will insult her because that is what will eventually happen.

Going into a conversation with an unknown girl with an agenda in mind ("This is what I want to talk about and this is how the conversation is going to go", you know, with your questions and her (supposed) responses fixed in your mind) is a sure-fire way to sound either clumsy or self-absorbed.

	24-01-2003 20:40									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov I am horrible at being an aggressive pick-up guy, as I tend to get really shy. So I generally rely on getting picked up, which seems to work well enough. The strangest place I've ever picked up a guy was at Sardis when I went to the after party for the opening night of Bea Arthur's one-woman show last year. We circled the room, smiling at each other for a good while before I finally went up to him and asked him his name. We exchanged numbers with Rue McClanahan standing 2 feet away from me.

Name dropper.




Why do I have the strangest mental picture of a couple of hound-dogs (circling each other) .

	24-01-2003 20:41									#39
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quote: Originally posted by SpencerH Name dropper.

Yeah, I'm sure dropping Rue's name will get me somewhere. While I'm at it, I'll talk about schmoozing with Valerie Harper. Oooooooh!

quote: Why do I have the strangest mental picture of a couple of hound-dogs (circling each other) .

More like hyenas, I think.

	24-01-2003 20:45									#40
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When you meet Marlo Thomas, pass my name to her, Boris.
STILL looking good.

	24-01-2003 20:45									#41
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Well in certain circles Valerie Harper is known as the new Liza !



That hungry were you?



Who is Valerie Harper? Was she Rhoda?

	24-01-2003 20:51									#42
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT (general, not directed to UR in particular): But seriously: You know, they're only girls. They aren't going to kill you if they aren't interested. Striking up a conversation with a strange female isn't all that different from striking up a conversation with a strange guy... I don't really know what the problem is.

I dunno. Must be the cooties.

quote: Originally posted by JohnT For example... assume college boy and single girl are standing in a long line at the grocery store...

But, but what if I run into her in the hallway of my dorm?

	24-01-2003 20:55									#43
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Does she live in the dorm?

	24-01-2003 21:00									#44
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Was.

The thing is, sometimes it's not bad, say, waiting for food in line in the cafeteria. Other times, like just right smack on the street or something, I'd be at a total loss as what to say.

	24-01-2003 21:03									#45
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT Going into a conversation with an unknown girl with an agenda in mind ("This is what I want to talk about and this is how the conversation is going to go", you know, with your questions and her (supposed) responses fixed in your mind) is a sure-fire way to sound either clumsy or self-absorbed.

I gather you are speaking from personal experience.

	24-01-2003 21:03									#46
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quote: Originally posted by SpencerH Well in certain circles Valerie Harper is known as the new Liza ! That hungry were you? Who is Valerie Harper? Was she Rhoda?

Yeah, she was Rhoda, I believe. I had just seen her on Broadway in The Tale of the Allergist's Wife. I lied to her face and told her I thought she was terrific in it.

	24-01-2003 21:08									#47
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Sometimes, you have to be bold, daring:

"Hello, my name is Urban Ranger. I noticed you as we were walking and I was wondering if I may give you my phone number/get your phone number?"

Smile! Hands out of pockets, chin up, shoulders back, and look her in the eye!

Remember: the worst she can do is say "no."

I had a friend who had a girl say to him "Why are you irritating me?" to which he replied "I thought a woman as attractive as you would also be correspondingly charming. My mistake. Good bye." No harm, no foul.

	24-01-2003 21:09									#48
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger I gather you are speaking from personal experience.

Yup!

	24-01-2003 21:10									#49
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Heres my pick-up method (it may not work for you).

Join the army and become a paratrooper. Spend a significant amount of time overseas in a shithole. During your leave propose to go on a bar-crawl of the sites where the airborne jumped in during WWII. Sit in a bar in Frankfurt-Sachsen watching football and drinking great beer for 12 hours. Ferociously guard your table from German guys who want to sit down. Allow good looking girls to sit down. Occasionally talk to them. Change plans, go to Spain with Swedish girls then get married later.

I dont see why y'all have a problem.

	24-01-2003 21:30									#50
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I picked up a girl in the airport a couple weeks ago. We were both waiting for the same flight. I noticed that we were both trying to voluneteer for a bump, started talking to her about that. Than asked her if she wanted to grab a cup of coffee while we waited. Than asked her out right before the flight started. She was obviously willing since she had just broken up.

I think the key thing is increasing the frequency of sales calls rather than the skill of the sales call. Age does help a lot with confidence though.

	24-01-2003 21:38									#51
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Notice that GP continually "asked"...

Good job, GP!

	25-01-2003 07:47									#52
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JohnT gives good advice . . . its actually similar to stuff I have said many times

No matter where you are, you have something in common with your "target" even if its just that you know that she is in the dorm. If you just ask questions and make a little comment before asking another question, you can talk to a woman for a good long while and find out a fair bit about her. I picked up a woman in a bank lineup once. I commented on hating the long line-up and next thing we were talking about the convenience of online banking- and her computer system-this led to a mention of her doing her assignments . . . . " So do you play games, do chat or use it for work or school? " . . . and I found out she went to school her major and what she wanted to do etc etc. If you simply act normal, not an idiot and do not offend her, she will likely be very happy to talk about herself. All the questions should always allow a positive and expansive response. Asking "do you like punk rock?" is not as good as asking her for her favorite music or group . Save telling her about yourself until after she has agreed to a date (other than answering her questions but be brief).

	25-01-2003 17:57									#53
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Of course she could become fixated upon you after this brief encounter and stalk you for the rest of your life (which may be short).

	25-01-2003 18:21									#54
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I have no idea. I get drunk. Suddenly I'm speaking to a girl (who? how?). I'm ranting about something. She's pissing herself with laughter. Her tongue's in my ear. I've got a girlfriend.

Presumably things happen between the points I've noted above, but I'm buggered if I can remember what they are.

	25-01-2003 21:57									#55
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I often have forty-year-old women start flirting with me when I go grocery shopping. It's kind of disconcerting. Their reactions to finding out my age can also be disconcerting -- usually they just kind of blush and say something like "Wow, my son is the same age," but once or twice their eyes have just lit up.

	25-01-2003 22:29									#56
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Nothing wrong with older women, they can teach you a thing or two.

	25-01-2003 22:31									#57
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like how to age gracefully?

	25-01-2003 22:39									#58
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Hey, I didn't say that

	25-01-2003 23:08									#59
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quote: The strangest place I've ever picked up a guy was at Sardis when I went to the after party for the opening night of Bea Arthur's one-woman show last year. We circled the room, smiling at each other for a good while before I finally went up to him and asked him his name. We exchanged numbers with Rue McClanahan standing 2 feet away from me.

Congratulations, Boris. This may be the gayest thing I've ever read in my life...

BTW, was Bea Arthur the guy you picked up?

quote: I often have forty-year-old women start flirting with me when I go grocery shopping. It's kind of disconcerting. Their reactions to finding out my age can also be disconcerting -- usually they just kind of blush and say something like "Wow, my son is the same age," but once or twice their eyes have just lit up.

Wutang!

	26-01-2003 04:53									#60
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What gets me is why does boris come and talk about his gay anal stuff in a thread clearly earmarked for Real men seeking women?