26-01-2003 10:45									#1
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Alright there, The Geordie's thread on moving to the states reminded me again of my dream which i hope to pursue when i graduate.
Basically, of the American Cities I've been thinking about Chicago as the place to go. Seems to be a good all around Mix, Nice place,Perfect Climate/weather,Not too expensive afaik ect
Am I right about Chicago? is it any good?
My second question is how do i actually get there?
What I am looking at for rent, or what do house prices start at?
What are the average incomes for an a Qualified Accountant?
Is it possible to transfer and study there? i hear it's quite expensive ?

Any help appreciated
Cheers
Matt

	26-01-2003 12:49									#2
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I take it this thread isn't about the movie.

I'll bump this for Ming to answer.

	26-01-2003 14:45									#3
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I was (a couple of days ago) offered a job at the University of Wisconsin (sp?) at Madison. I think that is about 2 hours drive from Chicago.

I turned them down though because I don't think it would be good for my career to come to the US at this point.

	26-01-2003 16:29									#4
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I wish this thread was about the movie - I loved that!
I respect Chicago for its sense of culture? the blues and all that jazz?

	26-01-2003 16:34									#5
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Aye, Madison doesnt seem to far away by my Map readings. I have a mate who is moving to Madison funnily enough, very jealous indeed but apparently a mate there is gonna give him free lodge until he can find work. If all fails he says he'll do the same for me in a few years time, then I can work my way towards to the windy city

	26-01-2003 16:52									#6
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My mother went to see this film last night, she said it was alright actually, but it struck me as more of a 'chick flick' and doesn't really appeal to me. I never have liked musicals.

	26-01-2003 17:07									#7
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you're such a stereotype, provost!

	26-01-2003 17:16									#8
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I'm a real man

	26-01-2003 19:17									#9
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Provost is not only a man... he's the man!

Chicago is a great city! I live in the Chicago Area!

	26-01-2003 20:41									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Rogan Josh I turned them down though because I don't think it would be good for my career to come to the US at this point.

Why would it hurt your career?

	26-01-2003 20:59									#11
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Chicago is probably the best city to experience the essence of America. NYC and LA are their own little worlds. Chicago is the metropolis of the heartland.

	26-01-2003 22:54									#12
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Chicago's also near some other major metropolises like Indianapolis and Detroit.

The weather's not exactly "perfect" but as I understand it they get less 'lake-effect' (like snow, etc.) than people living a little east of the Lake. Word to the wise - Lake Michigan isn't exactly a place you want to swim. I've been to the dunes a few times and almost every time there are hundreds of fishies belly up.

	26-01-2003 23:08									#13
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Why would it hurt your career?

The sort of particle physics that I do - phenomenology, which is working out what we see at the big colliders (LHC, Tevatron, etc) - is very weak in the US.

The US funding agencies are much more interested in string theory. Even in places where there is a good pheno group (like Madison) they don't have much power and always play second fiddle to the string groups.

Its a bit ironic really, since they have the only running collider experiment at the moment (the Tevatron).

	26-01-2003 23:50									#14
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Perfect climat? Hah! It's like 10F right now. (22 F below freezing)
-12C for you euros and canucks, and with windchill, its -20C. (-4F)

	27-01-2003 00:01									#15
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quote: -12C for you euros and canucks

Correction: -12C to the rest of the world.

	27-01-2003 01:25									#16
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quote: Originally posted by MacTBone I've been to the dunes a few times and almost every time there are hundreds of fishies belly up.

That's not pollution. Fish die-offs are normal in Lake Michigan. However, the further South you are, the more the lake smells. Or maybe it's just the closer to Gary you are. I don't like swimming in the lake cause its cold.

	27-01-2003 01:30									#17
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The lake has had it's polution problems in the past. But they are doing a good job of cleaning it up, and Oak Street Beach off North Michigan Avenue is wonderful.

And another reason to like Chicago... It has the best Pizza in the world.

*waiting for Imran to respond*

	27-01-2003 01:34									#18
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Perfect climate?!?!? It's way below freezing in the Winters and it's boiling in the Summers. Chicago is easily the worst place I've ever lived in in terms of weather.

	27-01-2003 01:38									#19
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Fall is perfect though, and it easily makes up for the whole rest of the year.

	27-01-2003 02:53									#20
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quote: And another reason to like Chicago... It has the best Pizza in the world.

Ah, the rantings of a senile moderator .

	27-01-2003 03:19									#21
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Hey, im no Geordie

just live in Geordieland ..

Im actually from Chester. (Lived in Nottingham for 2 years Rothy, your part of the country also).

	27-01-2003 04:24									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Ming And another reason to like Chicago... It has the best Pizza in the world.

I've heard from everyone I trust that Chiago has THE best pizza ever. I've never tried it though...

	27-01-2003 14:20									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Rothy ,Perfect Climate/weather,

well if you have previously lived on antarctica, you'll find the winters rather mild

	28-01-2003 14:48									#24
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Hi, thanks a lot for the informative posts here. I wasnt just talking about temperatures but also the fact it aint just one big desert like the west :/ . The Quality of grass is a big thing to me. Would anyone be able be able to provide me with financial information about Chicago tho, what are the wages like, and how do they compare to standard of living??.

As for the East Midlands Viceroy, this is the boring part of the country innit!, no character...

Cheers
Matt

	28-01-2003 14:51									#25
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some of us like desert .

All the great prophets have had spiritual experiences there

	28-01-2003 14:54									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Rothy Hi, thanks a lot for the informative posts here. I wasnt just talking about temperatures but also the fact it aint just one big desert like the west :/ .

The pacific NorthWest and most of California don't fall under the category of desert.

	28-01-2003 15:04									#27
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Really? I've heard California is very desert like, depends how we would define a desert climate I guess..
I would define non-desert area's as an area where soft grass grows natrually.....

	28-01-2003 15:05									#28
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Northern California has many national forest and is very forested

Southern California is very deserty. Central California has a lot of farmland I believe. And central eastern California has a national park and many mountains and wilderness. Along with a Lake bordering Nevada.

	28-01-2003 16:20									#29
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quote: The Quality of grass is a big thing to me.

Then Berkeley is where you want to be.

	28-01-2003 19:56									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident some of us like desert . All the great prophets have had spiritual experiences there

some of the most enjoyable drives i had were through mojave and a bit of arizona (although that hardly qualifies as desert proper).
middle eastern deserts are also cool