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Lemmy is offline Lemmy
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Hercules is offline Hercules
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I hope the good people of the Peacekeeping faction will continue to support me as their Director of Peacekeeping Operations. I feel I have set about implementing the broad peacekeeping policy which was widely accepted a number of years back.

We are moving into more perilous times. We need to be on our guard and maintain secure defences.

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A question, Herc: When do you intend to press the war against the Hive, and how do you intend to do it?

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Go Herc.

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You've got my vote, Herc, but I would like to hear your plans and timetable for dealing with the hive.

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When do you intend to press the war against the Hive

Is that Herc's decision? Isn't that foreign affairs?

Of course, Herc got my vote. Nice to see a moderate pacifist in the position, instead of the usual warmongerors (no offence DBTS )

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Is that Herc's decision? Isn't that foreign affairs?
I agree that it's the DFA's decision to start a vendetta... but isn't it the DPO's duty to end one? ... well, unless you resolve it diplomatically, but that's no fun

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Nice to see a moderate pacifist in the position, instead of [warmongerors]
I agree, we are the Peacekeepers after all, not the Spartans.

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If he's a pacifist, why's he complaining about the -5 police rating in the SE thread? ~_~

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If he's a pacifist, why's he complaining about the -5 police rating in the SE thread? ~_~
"moderate" pacifist... ie there are still situations where he would want to take the fight to the enemy, and would probably not be happy about 2 drones per unit thus deployed.

I don't think a pure pacifist could be considered qualified for DPO

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Is that Herc's decision? Isn't that foreign affairs?


Not seeing as how the war is already underway. Foreign Affairs is responsible for diplomatic actions, not military ones.

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If he's a pacifist, why's he complaining about the -5 police rating in the SE thread? ~_~

Because I do not want civil unrest. Why does me not wanting a war mean I cannot want a negative police rating? I want to be at peace, but without the -5 police. If we have to go to war, then I definiatly don't want a negative police, because of our units being out of base squares.

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-5 Police only gives you Drones for units outside of the faction's territory, not outside of base squares. And I'd think that you'd probably want to (RP-wise) remove the military police from our bases ASAP, correct?

As for civil unrest.....as we've clearly shown time and time again, there only would be if you warmongers went and took units out of our territory. And in that case, that's your own damn fault, and every citizen's right. Having more police doesn't make them more happy about troops going overseas. It just supresses them.

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If we have to go to war, then I definiatly don't want a
negative police, because of our units being out of base squares.


exactly.

It is the Dir of Peacekeeping Operations job to carry out the will of the people. As I understand it, that will is first and foremost to safe guard our territory.

The second aim is to build a force of occupation to reign in Yang's expansionist ideas and third, to liberate Hive citizens.

and finally if Yang has not surrendered unconditionally to the Peacekeepers after severe setbacks to his force, to seek his distruction.

I think our covert operation troops have done us proud and have gained us several years catch up.
It costs time a money building and training a military force. I know when those boys and girls are sent overseas, they don't want to hear news of disquiet back home. Severe discontent adds fuel to Yang's propoganda machine.

Most of our defensive build up will be on the Easterns side (and the acquistion of AAA is a great help,) but we will not neglect the western shores.
Some of our military capability will of necessity have the best strike offensive available (counter attack and strike where necessary) and our scientists, I know are working feverishly in that area.

I know our citizens are anxious to' liberate' the ordinary people in Hive territory but our strength is vigilence, precision and patience.

It is not for the Dir of Peacekeeping Operations to move our faction to a 'higher' war footing but I would hope to have the quiet and non alarmist cooperation of the CommissHioner, Alpha talent , Directors and Governors in the development, design and production of military units. Ideas welcome.

I realise that one or two needlejets is one less hospital or other social facility, but view it as a slight delay in the delivery of those important citizen facilities, we we all wish to see. Hell I as much as anybody want to enjoy the delights of those offshore R&R facilities.

Also our director of Foreign Affairs will be working his ass off in the UN trying to secure peace across the planet.

Yang might deliver to the UN his weapons of mass distruction ,so continuation of the conflict is not inevitable

If it comes to a sharp increase in hostilities against Yang, I hope on behalf of the Peacekeepers we will have the full backing of all citizens.

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Yang might deliver to the UN his weapons of mass distruction ,so continuation of the conflict is not inevitable
Why does this sound familiar?

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If it comes to a sharp increase in hostilities against Yang, I hope on behalf of the Peacekeepers we will have the full backing of all citizens.
Yang? If you want to go after Yang, you've got my support. I've got a few scores to settle with him regarding some collegues of mine from the University...

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I realise that one or two needlejets is one less hospital or other social facility, but view it as a slight delay in the delivery of those important citizen facilities, we we all wish to see. Hell I as much as anybody want to enjoy the delights of those offshore R&R facilities.


Well, no, not really, in view of the low cost of needlejets relative to the facilities you've mentioned. 3-4 needlejets is 1 less RH or TF, but it constitutes quite a powerful military force in it's own right. A fair trade-off, I'd say, as long as we actually have a use for them.

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Why does this sound familiar?

Yang? If you want to go after Yang, you've got my support. I've got a few scores to settle with him regarding some collegues of mine from the University...


We must give more time to the UN inspecotrs to check if Yang has weapons of mass destructions !

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Bah, why bother. It's not as if Yang has any oil, after all...

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What about it? The minerals there might be nice, but not at the price required to extract them (i.e. the number of crawlers that would be required).

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Bah, why bother. It's not as if Yang has any oil, after all...


he has the uranium flats though

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Originally posted by Pandemoniak We must give more time to the UN inspecotrs to check if Yang has weapons of mass destructions !
Hmm... wait, we are the UN! Let's have the armed forces do the "inspections"

"The 3rd Peacekeeper air wing continued inspections in The Leader's Horde today, using high-yield bombs to blow apart several buildings believed to be housing weapons of mass destruction..."

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Hmm... wait, we are the UN!


I like it.

But Yang as far as we know has not started production of PBs: nor as far as we can ascertain, biological or chemical weapons. If and when that happens that is a different scenario.

However let me remind all that war and peace can turn on the skill of our Foreign Affairs Directors diplomatic skills. And there is more than just Yang out there.

However we ourselves have not yet built global 'protective' clout.

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But Yang as far as we know has not started production of PBs: nor as far as we can ascertain, biological or chemical weapons.


Of course Yang has biological and chemical weapons! Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. I have the resports right here on my desk and I will present them to the public next week!

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But Yang as far as we know has not started production of PBs: nor as far as we can ascertain, biological or chemical weapons.
I know, I was just making a joke ... if Yang were to go down that path, however, I would become more serious.

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We're all just making a joke here. We all know that the US 'justifications' for attacking Iraq are just so much bullsh*t.





I hope...

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You mean the US non justifications, I guess

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