29-01-2003 03:30									#1
	Manhattan Project gives nukes... Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

I had just thought about this a couple days ago. The Manhattan project wonder right now is pretty useless to create ur self. Sure if the AI is making it, then I would be more than willing to just let them finish and reap the benefits afterwards (nukess yess... :lol

However to make it more appealing to human players, they should've made the wonder give 2 free Tactical Nukes. History-wise this is what exactly happened. When America finished the Manhattan Project, they got 2 Nuclear bombs ready to hit Nagasaki and Hiroshima, which in turn made the ending of the war quicker.

Imagine the same thing happened in Civ 3. The first civilization to finish the Manhattan Project should get 2 free nukes to hit any other civs that they're in war(or not) with. This will give more reasons for players than just to waste shields on something the AI can build for us. You cannot build other nukes until Space Ship (i think) science has been researched, to limit nuclear warfare.

I'm not sure this if this is possible to do in the editor, however . Any comments?

thx

	29-01-2003 03:50									#2
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Not possible. You could make it so that nukes require a silo improvement that requires Manhattan Project and then kae the Manhattan Project give the silo improvement to every city.

	29-01-2003 03:57									#3
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Or having a chance to build nukes only after stealing/purchasing tech from those who built it

That means that the guys getting Manhattan Pj would be the only ones able to build them

	29-01-2003 07:38									#4
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Playing PTW 1.14 you can use the editor to make the Manhattan Project as a small wonder which allows nukes only to the civ who builds it, that's much more realisitic and will give you a nuke advantage at least for a couple of turns if you're the first one to finish building it.

	29-01-2003 07:44									#5
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Hang on, I thought that everyone needed to make their own TMP in order to get nukes?
If only we could make units dependant on Improvements, and not just resources, 'cause then, as Sheik said, you could have the TMP count as an "Uranium Enrichment plant" (a VERY expensive improvement to build ) in every city, then make ALL nuclear weapons require uranium and a "Uranium Enrichment plant" to build.

Yours,
The_Aussie_Lurker.

	29-01-2003 13:53									#6
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quote: Originally posted by raguil_79 Playing PTW 1.14 you can use the editor to make the Manhattan Project as a small wonder which allows nukes only to the civ who builds it, that's much more realisitic and will give you a nuke advantage at least for a couple of turns if you're the first one to finish building it.

I hated when they changed it to a great wonder and disallowing it to be made a small one! Should be renamed though, as I don't think Soviet called in "Manhattan Project"...

	29-01-2003 15:15									#7
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yeah they called it the "Oxbridge Spies Project"

	29-01-2003 16:14									#8
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I play with Manhattan as a small wonder and find the AI takes quite a while to get round to building it and then building nukes so it is fairly easy to get ahead in nukes. I do it that way to discourage nuclear war as it is then more expensive in terms of shields.

If you do change Manhattan Project to a small wonder in PTW be sure to give other GW's the Manhattan traits to keep the opportunities for getting a GA through GW's balanced.