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Caligastia is offline Caligastia
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Political Correctness (PC) is a term coined by the New Left to describe their political and cultural ideology, which blends radical traditions such as Marxism with gender feminism. A major PC goal on American campuses is to enforce "sensitivity" through a re-education of students' values. Sensitivity is enforced through speech codes, propaganda in the classroom, and diversity training sessions.

This fall, universities will be conducting freshman orientations that will almost certainly include diversity training. Attendance is usually mandatory and often tax-funded. Students will watch films and participate in sociological exercises designed to shake the values they have acquired from their culture and families. Two of the most popular diversity training films are "Blue Eyed" and "Skin Deep."

The 90-minute "Blue Eyed" documents an experiment conducted by Jane Elliott, a $6,000 a day sensitivity trainer, in which a group of forty people are divided into blue eyed and brown eyed people. The former are psychologically brutalized and the latter are psychologically empowered as a lesson in white racism. Elliott declares that the salvation of white people lies in their frank admission of guilt and their efforts to eliminate hidden racism and sexism from society. E.g. it lies in rooting out the subtle oppression embodied in the name "Betty" which — she claims — serves to "infantilize women."

Hugh Vasquez's "Skin Deep" documents a workshop on race. One section of the accompanying Study Guide — entitled "White Privilege" — declares that white privilege controls all power in society and that whites must assume their guilt.

Requiring attendance to sensitivity training has caused some critics to make comparisons to Soviet psychiatry and the re-education camps of some Communist countries, such as Maoist China. There, re-education attempted to replace "bad" personal attitudes with ones that served the purpose of the State. In an excellent article entitled "Thought Reform 101" (Reason, March 2000) Alan Charles Kors, co-founder of The Foundation for Individual Rights in Education explicitly compares the diversity training to Communist re-education camps. It is a comparison worth pursuing. The following are merely a few of the parallels.

Shared Assumptions and Procedures
1. False Consciousness Must Be Erased. The oppressed must be made aware of their subjugation. The Leninist concept of "false consciousness" refers to a class' acceptance of the myths about itself. For example, the workers' acceptance of bourgeois myths about society, such as the notion that people "rise on merit." In the "Skin Deep" Guide, Vasquez speaks of "internalized oppression" which is defined as "taking on and believing the stereotypes or lies" about "your group." In other words, everyone in a class that has been "targeted for mistreatment and discrimination" has internalized oppression to "some degree" and must be educated toward a true understanding of themselves.

2. Alternate Ideologies Must be Suppressed. Re-education camps often target religious groups because religion represents a strong alternate value system. In similar fashion, diversity training involves systematic denigration of alternate value systems such as conservatism. In "Blue Eyed," Elliott tells a "white male" whom she has humiliated into submission that "what I just did...today Newt Gingrich is doing to you every day...and you are submitting to that, submitting to oppression." As Elliott explains, "A new reality is going to be created for these people."

3. Truth Requires Thought Control. In his book "Enfer Rouge, Mon Amour," Lucien Trong wrote of the re-education camp where he was confined. Prisoners were not permitted to read the words published in magazines and books from the former regime, to sing the words of old songs, or to have 'unauthorized' political discussions. In the Study Guide to "Skin Deep," Vasquez writes, "Language is one of the institutions that serve to perpetuate racism...Thus, language is a critical element in eliminating the mistreatment of any group...Should we be 'politically correct?' Of course we should if what we mean by this is eliminating language that is part of how mistreatment is perpetuated."

4. Family Ties Must Be Weakened. Re-education camps break the loyalty that prisoners naturally feel toward their families who offer an alternate system of values. A Vietnamese prisoner wrote, "When making declarations about relatives, we had to make mention of their guilt as well." In "Skin Deep," a student named Dane admits his family's racist guilt: "No way I can step back and change that (his great grandparents fighting for the confederacy in the Civil War)." He comments, "It's tough choosing what's right and choosing your family."

5. The Propagandists have Noble Intentions. In the Los Angeles Times (January 9, 1998), journalist David Lamb reported on a "re-education camp for women with 'social disorders'." The camp director was quoted as saying, "We think of this as a humanitarian program." The noble motive of Elliott and Vasquez is to end racism, sexism, ageism, ableism, and heterosexism...just about every type of nonPC 'ism' in existence. The Study Guide describes Elliot as a courageous pioneer who has endured great personal pain for her stand — though she admits to having been "only confronted once by her colleagues. For spreading such inaccurate and racist statements as "whites invented racism," Disney is doing a movie of her life.

6. The Effect is to Heighten Division Among People. A re-education prisoner reported on the effect camp policy had upon the good will of inmates. "[To] turn prisoners against each other by reading them [confessions] aloud to the group and asking anyone who had knowledge of anything left out or of lies in the statement to step forward." The prisoners came to suspect, resent and hate each other, looking at those sitting to each side as "the enemy." The Guide to "Blue Eyed" describes Elliott as "unrelenting in her ridicule and humiliation of the blue-eyed people [whites]" while "the participants of color watch as white people" feel their guilt for racism. Whites are admonished to "hear people of color, no matter what tone or phrasing they use." At the same time, they are warned, "don't expect people of color to bleed on the floor for white people."

The "diversity industry," in which top experts charge as much as $35,000 for a "cultural audit" or $3,000 an hour for a lecture, must cease to be funded by tax-dollars. Parents who wish to nurture the values of their children must oppose the coercive indoctrination of political correctness into their offspring. They must exercise the most important aspect of freedom of speech: the right to say "no."


"diversity training" is no better than a communist re-education camp. Why should taxpayers foot the bill for this garbage?

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All of America's education system is a reducation camp, to one extent or another.

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Better than the "Re-education Clamps"

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Better than the "Re-education Clamps"


How do they work?

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Why doesn't everyone just oppress white people and get it over with? They are clearly the only racists in the world.

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Why doesn't everyone just oppress white people and get it over with? They are clearly the only racists in the world.



DASHI!!! That is perhaps the single most ignorant statement I've ever read! Caucasians most certainly DO NOT hold a monopoly in Hate. It's just that we have the most colorful...well, blood red ...history of it. Hate is truly one of the global common languages spoken by ALL of Humanity.

Hopefully one day we will all forget how to speak it...

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Political correctness does occasionally step over the bounds of common sense, but it's mainly a carefully crafted invention of the media.

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Is this what goes on at freshman orientations? Fortunately I missed out on most of it because I was in the marching band, and during orientation we had band camp, where we learned how to roll our feet and move in formation and stand at attention when we heard someone shout, "Band, ten-hut!" Hmmm...perhaps there was something communistic to that experience as well.

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Political correctness does occasionally step over the bounds of common sense, but it's mainly a carefully crafted invention of the . . .


right-wing. By and large, PC is simply a boogey-man conjured up to rally the troops.

The term first appeared as a leftist insult in the early '70s. People who refused to be politically active and just lived a good life-style were termed politically-correct.

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DASHI!!! That is perhaps the single most ignorant statement I've ever read! Caucasians most certainly DO NOT hold a monopoly in Hate. It's just that we have the most colorful...well, blood red ...history of it. Hate is truly one of the global common languages spoken by ALL of Humanity.

Hopefully one day we will all forget how to speak it...


Duuude...youre killing me!

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This sounds like a good idea. Perhaps if these were introduced in public schools we could eliminate racism in the U.S.

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Everything we meet in life is re-education to other values.

The problem arises when someone decides to teach us values we don't agree with.

As long as you can recognize the bias - you should be well equiped when dealing with it.

I suggest that before learning anything, students are taught propoganda and brain-washing. Out of personal interest, I studied alot about it, and now I can critically view everything presented to me.

That doesn't mean that I reject everything - nowadays everyone are using propoganda - but it means that I can ignore the irrelevant messages, and see the facts more clearly.

But I must warn you though - it really ruins your pleasure. I can watch a play, a movie or a news show, and keep thinking "oh, well it's clear now that they are using this method to try and convince me of that.... oh now they are using this technique to try and create an emotional anchor...".

If you want to make sure you're your own man - study the ways they use to control you.

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Siro got it right.

I went through Boot Camp. I survived that brain washing didn't I?

I can have any educational crap thrown at me and I'll just completely ignore what I don't agree with

And I think most people ignore all this crap anyways.

These orientations don't bother me in the least bit. They may actually help people shake some racist beliefs their families had. If the parents dont' like it don't send them to that school.

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I had some pretty radical professors in college. We used to complain that they were trying to brain wash us. Some of them said that if we didn't hear it in college where would we here it. Well, I guess you could come here to Apolyton. Point is, don't be afraid of knowledge. You can take it or leave it. In my case, I became a Lefty

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DASHI!!! That is perhaps the single most ignorant statement I've ever read! Caucasians most certainly DO NOT hold a monopoly in Hate. It's just that we have the most colorful...well, blood red ...history of it. Hate is truly one of the global common languages spoken by ALL of Humanity.

Hopefully one day we will all forget how to speak it...


Sigh. . .

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I think that eye thing is a good idea

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ever seen the south park episode "death camp of tolerance"?

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Yes.

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From Full Metal Jacket

Joker and Rafter Man stand in a small group of military and civilian officials near a large excavation containing about 40 bodies.

Lieutenant: "Well, apparently the NVA came in with lists of names - government officials, land owners, army and police officers. They went around to their houses and politely told them to report to local schools for political re-education. They shot everyone who turned up, some of them were buried alive."

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I think that eye thing is a good idea


She's gotten increasingly shrill over the years. The episode they did about her on Nova or Frontline ("A Class Divided") was pretty awesome. It was right after MLK had been assasinated and her 2nd grade class asked her why someone would do that. The next day she divided up the whole class. The first day brown-eyed kids were on top (got to play at recess, got to go to the bathroom whenever they wanted, etc), the next day, blue-eyed kids were on top. Afterwards, both groups scores remained higher than before, but not as high as when they were told they were better than someone else.

The results were quite interesting. On the first day, the average grades of the brown-eyed went up and the blue-eyed kids went down. The next day the situation was reversed. Simply being told that you were superior or inferior had an effect on how these children performed, or their self-esteem, etc. To this day, those children have never forgotten the experiment.

The problem with the sensitivity training is that it doesn't take long enough, so it's compressed and more confrontational.

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Wtf is this article?

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IF these help reduce hate crime attacks then I am definently for them.

It's perfectly alright for the straight, white men here to criticize - have you ever been attacked for your sexuality or colour?

There's nothing wrong with trying to promote tolerance.

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they just don't like the forced part of it. Esp. since some of these universities are publically funded.

But I am ok with it. Because you are forced to watch plenty of crap in public schools. And some of it could be considered material that is brain washing. Hell we have to say the pledge of allegiance . How brain washing is that.

I leave it to people to ignore that which does not apply to them. Those with weak minds... well I don't know what to say to them.

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My god, kids are being taught to respect each other regardless of ethnic differences! The horror! This is like a Soviet gulag!

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