30-01-2003 02:22									#1
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The other day, i decided to install Windows 2000 on my PC, to replace Windows Me, which I was starting to get a tad fed up of. I "borrowed" my a Windows 2000 CD off one of my housemates and began to install. Everything was fine until I rebooted it. Whilst it was booting up, it went to a blue screen (I was rather hoping I'd seen the last of these), complaining that it couldn't find a specific registry setting, or something like that. I proceeded to dump the disk to memory, or vice versa, and rebooted. And did the same thing again. The MS knowledge base tells me I have to reinstall Windows as something has been corrupted. Fair enough.

I figured that the way to sort this out was to put together the Windows 2000 startup disks. With the aid of the computer of another of my housemates (the same one I'm using right now, infact), I managed to do this. I booted from the first disk, putting each one in in turn. Eventually, it began to boot into Windows. Here we go, I thought.

Not a chance.

Now it's complaining of a "kernel error", or something similar (I forget what exactly, and I left the piece of paper I wrote it on in my room). It refuses to boot.

All I want to do is boot into DOS with CD-ROM support so I can reinstall Windows. How the hell can I do this?

	30-01-2003 02:25									#2
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Pray?

	30-01-2003 02:25									#3
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Windows 2000 has been replaced by Windows XP. 2000 is 5.0, XP is 5.1...

Why can't you use the CD-Rom as a bootdisc? Doesn't Win2K support that?

	30-01-2003 02:25									#4
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Awwww... *sympathy*
Wish I had Win2000 though...Win95 is still just about creaking along on this system. My CD drive's dying on its feet, my scanner's already dead and my printer is coughing up ink.

	30-01-2003 02:31									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Windows 2000 has been replaced by Windows XP. 2000 is 5.0, XP is 5.1... Why can't you use the CD-Rom as a bootdisc? Doesn't Win2K support that?

I think the chances of getting XP to run on a P166 are somewhat limited.

And as for the CD as a bootdisc: I've tried. Even when I set my BIOS try booting from the CD first, it still won't. Must be my intensely lame computer.

I've just had a thought: will a Windows 98 boot disk allow me to boot into a DOS prompt with CD-ROM drivers loaded? If so, I can get another of my housemates to do me one and try that.

	30-01-2003 02:34									#6
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	30-01-2003 02:36									#7
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Yes, a Windows 98 bootdisc allows you to boot into DOS with CD-ROM support. I used to use it all the time for that.

	30-01-2003 02:39									#8
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quote: will a Windows 98 boot disk allow me to boot into a DOS prompt with CD-ROM drivers loaded?

Um, well this will work if it's an actual W98 out-of-the-box disc (ie, It Came From Redmond). I did this just a few weeks ago. Not sure if it's a do it yourself boot disc though.

	30-01-2003 02:43									#9
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Good. Next chance I get I'll ask him to sort that out for me.

Let's assume the worst (ie.; the likely) and say that doesn't work. What options do I have then?

	30-01-2003 02:54									#10
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Get any old dos/win95/win98 boot disk

Create Autoexec.bat file on the boot with

MSCDEX.EXE /D:MSCD001

Create config.sys file on the boot with

DEVICE=VIDE-CDD.SYS /D:MSCD001

Add two files to the boot disk, get of dos site

VIDE-CDD.SYS
MSCDEX.EXE

You now have a DOS boot disk

	30-01-2003 04:18									#11
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OK, my housemate with Win98 has gone around to a friend's house (either that or he's asleep, one of the two), so I can't create a startup disk that way. However, I've downloaded the necessary files off the net and bunged them onto a floppy, along with the extra stuff Ozz mentioned.

It still won't work. The floppy isn't bootable.

Is there something you do to a disk to make it bootable that I'm not aware of?

	30-01-2003 04:25									#12
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	30-01-2003 04:26									#13
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what makes you think you don't deserver that

Maybe you could reformat your hard drive and try with Win 98 or something. At least to get it running.

	30-01-2003 05:39									#14
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Just try this:

http://www.dewassoc.com/download/Win98boot.zip

And don't change anything in it and you should have a DOS boot disk.

	30-01-2003 06:43									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Paul Hanson I think the chances of getting XP to run on a P166 are somewhat limited.

You know, every 10 years or so, you really *ought* to upgrade the hardware...

	30-01-2003 09:08									#16
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It's 486 10 years ago.

	30-01-2003 14:28									#17
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The win98 boot floppy will only help you format the hard disk or (if you have stuff in there you want to keep) delete the c:\windows and "c:\program files" directories. The latter will probably look like c:\progra~1 when you boot from a floppy. Booting with cd-rom drivers will not help you much, as the setup programs for win2k and xp will not run in dos mode. Try cleaning these 2 directories first, then you MUST boot from the win2k cd, it's the only way to install it. If you have a copy of the disk, it must be a bootable disk with the original boot menu. Anything else is worthless.

An alternative would be to re-install win98/ME, then try running the win2k setup from win98/ME, but I can't promise it will work. From what you're saying, I think the win2k setup is trying to use the old winME registry and it's getting some stuff that doesn't agree with it.

	30-01-2003 14:33									#18
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Oh, and the ideea of installing win2k on a P166 is not very bright. I had problems installing win98 on such a system.
How much memory/hard disk space do you have?

	30-01-2003 19:36									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Paul Hanson Is there something you do to a disk to make it bootable that I'm not aware of?

It has to be formatted with the system option, windows
or
format a:/s
in dos

The files it needs to boot are
IO.SYS
BIOS.SYS
COMMAND.COM

The first two are hidden.

	30-01-2003 19:42									#20
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Build yourself new Athlon 1700+ with 256 MB ram + new R9000 GFX for 200£ some spare parts from the old PC like cd rom and floppy

1700+ - £40
256 MB £30
GFX above- £55
(ig you can spare 15£ more buy crucial Radeon 8500LE)
35£ ECS sis 735 atx mobo with sound
40£ 20GB generic HDD

all your probs solved for sure

	31-01-2003 20:13									#21
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It's OK everyone, I've sorted it. Remembering that I had another hard drive in my computer helped a lot in the end.

	31-01-2003 22:26									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Paul Hanson The other day, i decided to install Windows 2000 on my PC, to replace Windows Me, which I was starting to get a tad fed up of. I "borrowed" my a Windows 2000 CD off one of my housemates and began to install. Everything was fine until I rebooted it. Whilst it was booting up, it went to a blue screen (I was rather hoping I'd seen the last of these), complaining that it couldn't find a specific registry setting, or something like that. I proceeded to dump the disk to memory, or vice versa, and rebooted. And did the same thing again. The MS knowledge base tells me I have to reinstall Windows as something has been corrupted. Fair enough. I figured that the way to sort this out was to put together the Windows 2000 startup disks. With the aid of the computer of another of my housemates (the same one I'm using right now, infact), I managed to do this. I booted from the first disk, putting each one in in turn. Eventually, it began to boot into Windows. Here we go, I thought. Not a chance. Now it's complaining of a "kernel error", or something similar (I forget what exactly, and I left the piece of paper I wrote it on in my room). It refuses to boot. All I want to do is boot into DOS with CD-ROM support so I can reinstall Windows. How the hell can I do this?

hi ,

the best an fastest option is to buy a MAC , there are huge discounts and you are sure you never again are running into something like this , ........

have a nice MAC day

	31-01-2003 22:31									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Paul Hanson It's OK everyone, I've sorted it. Remembering that I had another hard drive in my computer helped a lot in the end.

	31-01-2003 22:41									#24
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quote: Originally posted by OneFootInTheGrave Build yourself new Athlon 1700+ with 256 MB ram + new R9000 GFX for 200£ some spare parts from the old PC like cd rom and floppy 1700+ - £40 256 MB £30 GFX above- £55 (ig you can spare 15£ more buy crucial Radeon 8500LE) 35£ ECS sis 735 atx mobo with sound 40£ 20GB generic HDD all your probs solved for sure

he'll still need a new case, mouse and keyboard, i doubt any of the old stuff will work

	31-01-2003 23:34									#25
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The whole point is pretty moot, since I'm a student and don't have £200 lying around for a new computer.

Well, I could, but the university would be well within their legal rights to chuck me out of my accomodation if I changed my spending plans.

	31-01-2003 23:39									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Paul Hanson The whole point is pretty moot, since I'm a student and don't have £200 lying around for a new computer. Well, I could, but the university would be well within their legal rights to chuck me out of my accomodation if I changed my spending plans.

hi ,

lease or rent one , ....

have a nice day