31-01-2003 19:18									#1
	How crap is the UK at dealing with the weather? Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

Answer: Shockingly bad.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2711977.stm

It is absolutely amazing to me how bad they are. We had about 2" of snow which covers a thin layer of ice here in Cambridge. In this area people have been stuck up on highways for upto 15hrs Stansted (3rd major airport of England) has been closed all day.

Not even the major roads have been gritted/salted, and all the sidewalks are covered in ice. I reckon the lawsuits would be flying in the States. In Luxembourg people are responsible for their bit of sidewalk, but I think the county is responsible here.

Well it is thawing now, so it might get better.

	31-01-2003 19:21									#2
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You britts are a bunch of lily-hugging ****ers.

	31-01-2003 19:21									#3
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For a country that is as totally obsessed with the weather as we are it is indeed shameful how poorly equipped we always are for it.

We suck.

	31-01-2003 19:23									#4
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we really are rubbish.

I would say ist because there soft southerners but iknow we couldn't cope either.

I think we're falling apart

	31-01-2003 19:25									#5
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quote: Originally posted by lightblue Answer: Shockingly bad. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2711977.stm It is absolutely amazing to me how bad they are. We had about 2" of snow which covers a thin layer of ice here in Cambridge. In this area people have been stuck up on highways for upto 15hrs Stansted (3rd major airport of England) has been closed all day. Not even the major roads have been gritted/salted, and all the sidewalks are covered in ice. I reckon the lawsuits would be flying in the States. In Luxembourg people are responsible for their bit of sidewalk, but I think the county is responsible here. Well it is thawing now, so it might get better.

One quibble with yor comments. Stanstead is Londons 3rd airport not englands. There are bif cities other than London and Manchester is alot bigger than stanstead.

Not that it should have closed though.

	31-01-2003 22:16									#6
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Notice how the northerners managed to cope but get down south and they are all whimpering like little babies.

	31-01-2003 23:12									#7
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Hehe, all the schools were closed here, and the shops were out of milk and bread because the lorries couldn't get through. I really don't know any country where this could happen

	31-01-2003 23:13									#8
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It's only because it happens so rarely.

It would cost more to have a massive gritting capacity than it does a few days of misery for southerners who don't understand the meaning of "only make important journeys".

	31-01-2003 23:39									#9
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quote: Originally posted by lightblue Hehe, all the schools were closed here, and the shops were out of milk and bread because the lorries couldn't get through. I really don't know any country where this could happen

I'm sure there's a few in Africa.

	01-02-2003 00:30									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Boddington's It's only because it happens so rarely. It would cost more to have a massive gritting capacity than it does a few days of misery for southerners who don't understand the meaning of "only make important journeys".

We have gritters, they had 3 days warning. I didn't see one gritter on the roads in the past few days and had to drive on compacted snow for no reason Luckily Hull didn't fall apart quite like the south east but still, the roads were treacherous (added about 10 minutes to my journey this morning).

It's not like snow is particularly rare either! We get some almost every bloody year, and we get ice, so don't tell me we don't have the capacity to cope. It is councils not getting of their arse and doing their job. I nearly broke half the bones in my body today walking on a public footpath and flying on the ice on a major thoroughfare. It should have been gritted

	02-02-2003 08:04									#11
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Important journeys?

	02-02-2003 08:41									#12
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thank god i live in california

	02-02-2003 09:48									#13
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quote: Originally posted by MRT144 thank god i live in california

It was only supposed to get into the low seventies today, but it must have been warmer. I didn't have to put the top up on my convertible until the sun went down.

	02-02-2003 09:57									#14
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it was actually pretty chilly up here in SF but the sky was clear blue, not a cloud in the sky...such a lovely day

	02-02-2003 17:53									#15
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I like days like that.

	02-02-2003 18:16									#16
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You ain't seen nothing yet. If the North Atlantic Drift current shuts down to any significant degree, the winters will be more like those in Moscow or Montreal. Say hello to -25 degree C weather and 2 metres of snow.

Of course, I've been training in Canada for the past four years for just such an occassion, so I'll be fine.

	02-02-2003 20:09									#17
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I like days like that too.

I was in the thick of it, very heavy snows up in Grampian, at least 4 inches in places.

But did we stop? Hell no! We had gritters out on the roads, and most people that didn't need to go out, stayed at home. I got the train into work.

Silly poncy Englishmen, I bet those miserable Southerners that want to ban old People from buses during rush hour. Oh heaven forbid I'm slightly late.

Cunts

	02-02-2003 21:29									#18
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I just heard the numbers for January. 11 days of 80F+ temperatures in L.A. & zero rain. Second warmest January since records started being kept 125 years ago. Ohh, I could learn to this.

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quote: Originally posted by Zkribbler I just heard the numbers for January. 11 days of 80F+ temperatures in L.A. & zero rain. Second warmest January since records started being kept 125 years ago. Ohh, I could learn to this.

Hope you still love it when summer rolls around. Meteorologists are predicting that 2003 will be the hottest year on record.

	02-02-2003 23:57									#20
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When I went to school in North Carolina we got about four inches of snow in Raleigh, which is unheard of. (A fair number of my classmates had never seen snow in their lives before this.) The school shut down for a week, and people were sprinkling table salt on the sidewalks to try to thaw them.

Compare this to Michigan Tech in Houghton Michigan, which IIRC has shut down once due to snow in its entire history, and that was the year that they got 400+ inches of snow. It's all a matter of how much you're used to the weather.

	03-02-2003 00:14									#21
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then they'll just move up to canada

	03-02-2003 02:05									#22
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For all you guys whining about the gritters not being out fast enough, I have a question. Do you have winter tyres on your car, or do you just use the same tyres all year round? And do you have snow chains in your boot?

I do. How about you PH?

	03-02-2003 02:13									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Rogan Josh For all you guys whining about the gritters not being out fast enough, I have a question. Do you have winter tyres on your car, or do you just use the same tyres all year round? And do you have snow chains in your boot?

I don't think anyone here does. Which is part of the reason why we suck at dealing with the weather.

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Snow tires are no fun at all. They don't let you spin around.

	03-02-2003 04:45									#25
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What are 'winter tyres'?

	03-02-2003 08:36									#26
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My girlfriend and I saw this on BBC and started laughing. What they were calling a "blizzard" we would call a "dusting". My stepdaughter then called and started complaining about all of the trouble it was causing (she goes to Uni in London).

Of course this sort of incapability is not limited to England either. When I was stationed in Texas we got a light snow and the base commander shut down the base. I though this was more than a little bit of an overreaction until I saw the Texans try to drive in this stuff. Yea Tex, you've got your pickup truck spinning its wheels at 60 mph, I'm sure if you press down the accellerator just a little more you'll be off in no time. I watched amused as he spins slowly into the ditch.