01-02-2003 01:53									#31
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quote: Originally posted by lord of the mark Ok, now its US, Israel, Australia and the UK.

What about....
India
Afghanistan (post Taliban)
Saudi Arabia (of course they also support that terrorism... )
Jordan
Tunisia
Singapore
Kenya
Tanzania
Yemen
Kuwait
Argentina
(not to mention prevented attacks in Europe).

All of these have either exeperienced terror attacks, or have had planned terror attacks stopped.

	01-02-2003 01:55									#32
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That's him yeah.
He gave an interview for Reportage horis Synora (Reportage sans frontiers would be the translation)

in which he unashamably claimed that he wished civilians didnt die but if they did... militant groups dont specifically target civilians he said. (WTC Pentagon were strategic targets)


kind of reminded of me the US and Israel to tell you the truth (and little UK - although it is careful not to say such things, knows the world a bit better than the other two

	01-02-2003 01:56									#33
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yep afganistan, argentina and others suffered terrorist attackks.

Operation enduring freedom, malvinas...

	01-02-2003 02:00									#34
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so you have US/UK and Israel sharing the fear of attacks along with

India
Afghanistan
Saudi Arabia
Jordan
Tunisia
Singapore
Kenya
Tanzania
Yemen
Kuwait



you're in nice company.

	01-02-2003 02:25									#35
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Im canadian bu with Ramo on this.
I do think that comparatively, Americans are more at risk, than say Canadians, or Europeans, in foreign countries (embassies and such) for example.
But even then, Id feel safe, as in terror would not be one of my major PERSONNAL concern...
Of course I d still think about it and think of ways to make it end (which I wont get into heated debate here) but not actually feel directly threatened...
Im not saying that it cant happen to me, just than this probability is too low for me to feel "terrorized"
I know Im sorta of off topic by being the only one on topic but....

	01-02-2003 02:31									#36
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 yep afganistan, argentina and others suffered terrorist attackks. Operation enduring freedom, malvinas...

The attack in on the Jewish cultural center in Buenos Aires didnt count you see. It only killed J-E-W-S, and they dont count.

	01-02-2003 02:34									#37
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oh they count.

youre an american jew and think that anyone who speaks of the killingsof palestinian children by the israeli army is an antisemite, I take?


only last weak another 4 year old palestinian boy was killed by Israeli army, and you can call me an antisemite all you want

also israel has a military alliance with.. Turkey?
nice friends

	01-02-2003 02:42									#38
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 oh they count. youre an american jew and think that anyone who speaks of the killingsof palestinian children by the israeli army is an antisemite, I take?

why do you say that - i dont want to see any Pal chidlren killed. Nor do i think anyone concerned for them is an antisemite. You generalize because i am a jew. I do note that the idf denies deliberately targeting civilians. The attack in Buenos Aires was clearly targeted against civilians. Who, BTW, were agrentians, not Israelis, for the most part (and actually several victims were not Jews) so what does ISrael and the Pals have to do with it.

Someone said Argentina had been a victim of a terrorist attack.
You said, yes the Malvinas.
I mentioned the Buenos Aires attack - a said the remark about hte Jews because I saw no other reason why you didnt acknowledge the BA attack.
Instead of saying, yeah there was an attack in Argtentina, you changed the subject to events in Palestine.

If someone walked up to me and shot me now, would you say "never mind", Palestinian children, etc.

There are words for what you are, but i wont utter them.

have a nice day.

	01-02-2003 02:44									#39
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 oh they count. youre an american jew and think that anyone who speaks of the killingsof palestinian children by the israeli army is an antisemite, I take? only last weak another 4 year old palestinian boy was killed by Israeli army, and you can call me an antisemite all you want also israel has a military alliance with.. Turkey? nice friends

a nation that at least tried to be supportive of the victims of the worst genocide in europe in 50 years.

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i wont utter the words that fit you either, although I can share one with you: hypocrite

since you support the very system of practice and thought that goes around killing pal children every week and then you feel self righteous


stop wishing me a nice day and BTW you say things I never said.

Palestinian children are killed almost every week by the israeli army, and thats what we were talking about

i never changed the course of the conversation.


just not sure who is the terrorist here....?

	01-02-2003 02:48									#41
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quote: Originally posted by lord of the mark a nation that at least tried to be supportive of the victims of the worst genocide in europe in 50 years.

LOL
a country with apalling human rights records and mass killings (and a history of bad relations with all its neighboors - which make you an accomplice).

natural friends with the israeli army, I take?


why is it that near fascist states seem to always go hand in hand ?

	01-02-2003 02:52									#42
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 why is it that near fascist states seem to always go hand in hand ?

I don't know but that would explain FOPGian support for Serbians during thier repeated genocidal campaigns.

	01-02-2003 02:56									#43
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LOL

the ameritroll not worth answering it since he never types anything that stands.

	01-02-2003 02:56									#44
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 i wont utter the words that fit you either, although I can share one with you: hypocrite since you support the very system of practice and thought that goes around killing pal children every week and then you feel self righteous stop wishing me a nice day and BTW you say things I never said. Palestinian children are killed almost every week by the israeli army, and thats what we were talking about i never changed the course of the conversation. just not sure who is the terrorist here....?

sigh. We were talking about nations which have had terorist attacks on their soil. Like Argentina. We were not talking about Palestine till you brought it up.

The israeli army regularly goes into Pal cities to kill known terrorists, or to destroy bomb facotries etc. Bullets miss, bombs go astray. Pal children are killed. Especially when Pal children go to riots where stones are thrown, or when bomb factories are in civilian neighborhoods, or terrorists hide out in civilian neighborhoods. But probably elsewhere as well. Perhaps due to the negligence of the IDF. Perhaps becuase they care more about protecting their soldiers lives than about protecting Pal children. Perhaps the terrorist acts avoided are not worth what has happened. Perhaps Israel should unilaterally withdrawl, and take its chances with further acts. But that has nothing to do with whether a bomb in argentina was an act of terrorism.

	01-02-2003 02:58									#45
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 the ameritroll not worth answering it since he never types anything that stands.

The FOPGian troll runs away before sharp points. How utterly predictable.

	01-02-2003 03:00									#46
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quote: Originally posted by LulThyme Im canadian bu with Ramo on this. I do think that comparatively, Americans are more at risk, than say Canadians, or Europeans, in foreign countries (embassies and such) for example. But even then, Id feel safe, as in terror would not be one of my major PERSONNAL concern... Of course I d still think about it and think of ways to make it end (which I wont get into heated debate here) but not actually feel directly threatened... Im not saying that it cant happen to me, just than this probability is too low for me to feel "terrorized" I know Im sorta of off topic by being the only one on topic but....

im not talkoinmg actual danger, but targeting. And not relative targeting, but absolute - do you think Canada is targeted - is paktis correct that only US, UK, Israel, and Australia are targeted??

	01-02-2003 03:01									#47
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LOTM - again the same old story - we target terrorists - we are sorry for the women and little children we kill every week in the lands we occupy.


doesnt cut it.

	01-02-2003 03:05									#48
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 LOTM - again the same old story - we target terrorists - we are sorry for the women and little children we kill every week in the lands we occupy. doesnt cut it.

what does this have to do with argentina????

	01-02-2003 03:07									#49
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everything has to do with Argentina

	01-02-2003 03:09									#50
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 everything has to do with Argentina

ok. Now tell me again - was the attack on the Jeiwsh center in Buenos Aires an act of terrorism.

	01-02-2003 03:10									#51
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Or what? you're going to shoot me like a pal child?

think again buster.

1st tell me: are the killins of thousands ofpalestinians, children tearing down houses, killing families by the israeli army on THEIR own lands which are occupied an act of terrorism by the very definition of the word?

	01-02-2003 03:20									#52
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 Or what? you're going to shoot me like a pal child? think again buster. 1st tell me: are the killins of thousands ofpalestinians, children tearing down houses, killing families by the israeli army on THEIR own lands which are occupied an act of terrorism by the very definition of the word?

No - tearing down houses is not an act of terrorism. Killing civilians is - but only if it is deliberate.

	01-02-2003 03:21									#53
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I have nothing but contempt for you

good thing pals are fighting back against such monsters.

	01-02-2003 03:21									#54
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 Or what? you're going to shoot me like a pal child?

No i will simply repeat my question - was the attack on a jewish center in Buenos aires a act of terrorism.

	01-02-2003 03:22									#55
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quote: Originally posted by lord of the mark No i will simply repeat my question - was the attack on a jewish center in Buenos aires a act of terrorism.

no more than what israel's doing.

actually less.

	01-02-2003 03:23									#56
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 I have nothing but contempt for you good thing pals are fighting back against such monsters.

was the attack on teh Jewish center in buenos aires an act of terrorism???????

	01-02-2003 03:23									#57
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 no more than what israel's doing. actually less.

yes or no - was it or wasnt it???

	01-02-2003 03:25									#58
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my asnwer stands as it is.

dont get excitied cause it will not be changed.

	01-02-2003 03:27									#59
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BTW tearing down of houses of people who have nowhere else to go can be considered terrorism too
not only killing masses of pals including children on a weekly basis is.


and then we go to the subject of occupation of another mans land...

	01-02-2003 03:29									#60
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 my asnwer stands as it is. dont get excitied cause it will not be changed.

allow me to restate your answer then

Yes, the attack in Buenos AIres WAS an act of terrorism.



From which it follows that Argentina is also a target, and the US does not stand alone. QED.