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My girlfriend sent this to me and I found it pretty interesting
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http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/kozer1.html

JANUARY 29--One of the trio of "Joe Millionaire" finalists has starred in dozens of kinky bondage and fetish films that feature her being handcuffed, gagged, hog-tied, and bound with duct tape, The Smoking Gun has learned.

While Fox Television has described Sarah Kozer's occupation as "sales and design," the 29-year-old Los Angeles woman has a far more interesting entry on her resume: in the past few years she has starred in bondage films like "Novices in Knots," "Hogtied," and "Helpless Heroines," as well as foot fetish titles like "Dirty Soled Dolls." The 1998 graduate of Virginia's George Mason University is credited in these films as "Cindy Schubert."

When TSG reached Kozer early Wednesday at her L.A. home, a reporter asked about her career in bondage and fetish films. "It's early," Kozer said. "Let me get my glasses and call you back." When she didn't call, TSG rang again. After Kozer placed us on hold for ten minutes, she came on to the line and said, "No comment. And this is a shared line." She then hung up. Kozer's spokesman, Phil Viardo, said that her acting gig "started a couple of years ago while she was in law school and needed money to pay the bills." Fox spokesman Josh Governale declined to answer TSG questions, saying, "We do not comment on the personal lives of our participants." The disclosure of her film career comes weeks after TSG detailed how Evan Marriott, "Joe Millionaire" himself, earned spare change as an underwear model.

While Kozer's films are thin on plot, they are filled with moans and groans from bound captives who have been gagged, hog-tied, or lashed to a post--and who are often tickled by their captor. And almost every film contains close-ups of the wriggling feet of the victim. Kozer--who is clothed during these filmed encounters--is alternately seen being tied up and serving as a captor (of both men and women).

In one film, Kozer is dressed as a cheerleader and is seen gagged and hog-tied on the floor. In another, dressed as a nurse, she is drugged by a male patient who then binds her to a chair. In a third production, Kozer plays an actress who confronts a theater critic from whom she expects a poor review. She is then seen placing a chloroform-soaked rag over the mouth of the male critic, whom Kozer then gags and ties to a chair (as she writes the review--glowing, of course--for him). "I don't think you're gonna write a bad review," she announces. "I work too hard in this town."


For the discriminating foot fetishist, Kozer appears in a film that carries this description: "Julie King & Cindy Schubert put Mark in a hog-tie and cleave gag him! Then they tickle him and even have him smell their feet!" Kozer also appeared in "Dirty Soled Dolls," which focuses on 15 "fantastic foot-maidens" who "bare their filthy soles."

Ironically, one film features Kozer and a male partner as contestants on a reality television show offering a $1 million grand prize. The film, which opens with a crawl reading, "Reality Television Has Hit A New Low!," centers on a race between Kozer and her opponent--both of whom are bound and gagged--to be the first contestant to free themselves.

In a Q&A session on the Fox web site, Kozer--who has only been identified on the show by her first name--is asked about the wildest thing she had ever done. Not surprisingly, her answer contains no references to light bondage or risqué footage, just an account of her overseas travels. "Most of my 'wild' things involve adventure and romance," Kozer said."

On the succeeding 12 pages you'll find stills and video captures chronicling Kozer's kinky career. In fact, as you can see directly below, it appears Kozer--when posing for her official "Joe Millionaire" portrait--was outfitted in the same beige turtleneck and earrings that she wore during one bondage flick.

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That's really funny.

I mean the idea that people would pay for movies in which fully clothed people are tied up and forced to smell each other's feet is just bizarre. Avid fans of such films should be publicly flogged for being so sad.

In a real sense this is even sicker than being caught doing real porn.

Ugh!

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well who hasn't?

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Got spare money?

Just curious... but... so the f*** what if she did, and is kinky? How is that a bad thing, precisely?

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It just kind of shows what sort of trash these gold digging wenches are. I kind of hope she wins just so I can see the look on her face when they tell her the guy doesn't have a penny to his name.

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Tired of ads?

Again, it demonstrates 'trash' how, exactly? That she's an actress, or that she has a fetish? or is the combination bad?

I agree that ultimately... that these *are* gold diggers, specifically by going on this show.

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I don't consider people who "star" in fettish or porn flicks to be actors or actresses. They're getting paid to have sex or proform sexually explicite acts; that a camera is there means nothing. At the end of the day they are just a bunch of whores getting banged for some money.

That's what makes them trash.

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she didn't actually have sex or get naked.

She just appeared tied up, and with other bondage things on her. She was clothed apparantly.

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Ok, my mistake.

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still I wouldn't call it acting.

modelling is the closest you can call it.

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I agree. Actors have to do a little more then smell dirty feet and get hog tied before they earn the title.

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You speak much sense oerdin

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There is a simple definition for an actor:

2 a : one who represents a character in a dramatic production b : a theatrical performer c : one that behaves as if acting a part


drama is defined as

1 : a composition in verse or prose intended to portray life or character or to tell a story usually involving conflicts and emotions through action and dialogue and typically designed for theatrical performance : PLAY -- compare CLOSET DRAMA

also...

7 a : the stage representation of an action or story b : a dramatic composition : DRAMA

Source: MW

In every technical sense of the word, she is an actress... even if the productions she performs in aren't complex or involving. Its simply a matter of personal taste.

Now... second point... define how porn, in and of itself is bad. People want it... and people want to make it. Explain how your opinion and sensibilities are so superior as to make porn 'bad'.

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Every man is entitled to his opinion I suppose...

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I have no idea why would anyone call her trash.

Just because someone is employed in the sex, porn or fetish industry, doesn't make him trash.

And there's no reason to call a bdsm activity which you don't approve of 'sick'.

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because they are morally superior to us peons!

quick bow down to our social masters!

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sheesh, it's their choice not yours

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I have always been taught that who we are is defined by what we do. If we make a habit of doing evil things then we are evil; if we make a habit of doing trashy things then we are trash.

Whither this woman is trash or not I can't honestly say since I don't watch the show (that's why I said I was mistaken) however there can be no doubt about persons who star in porn films.

Stupid is as stupid does and trash is as trash acts.

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hell, if one of my contestants were found to be into kinky stuffs, thats a plus for me.

"so, I see that you've starred in some of those films..." (puts smiley face next to her name)

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I have always been taught that who we are is defined by what we do. If we make a habit of doing evil things then we are evil; if we make a habit of doing trashy things then we are trash.

Whither this woman is trash or not I can't honestly say since I don't watch the show (that's why I said I was mistaken) however there can be no doubt about persons who star in porn films.

Stupid is as stupid does and trash is as trash acts.


Who you are, might be based on your acts... but your opinion of someone elses actions, are not, in and of themselves valid.

Your opinion does not proof make. By the very nature of this arguement, there *IS* doubt as to 'people who star in porn films'.

The validity of your arguement ends at the boundary of your flesh. A totality of agreement by 'society' to your arguement, might make it valid, but there is none. Certainly not one that you could prove... and that would only make it as valid as for that proportion of society... and not a self-evident fact. "Proof", "fact and "truth" are possible only in the absolute sphere of mathematics.

Here... by the way... is another definition, you might want to consider...

BIGOT

"a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices"

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yea i guess if everyone who acts like certain way is determined as trash, then someone who is acting in that certain way but there is actual reason for it that would be unfair. Girls in third world countries who has to sell their bodies to sustain themselves shouldnt be called sluts? anyways I dont really feel like getting into philosophical mumbo jumbo.

Anyways, why shun these people!? Has anyone seen the SNL skit of Scarlet Letters where Girls with BJ and 69 embedded on their clothes... quoth, "Where do these girls get shunned from? Do they even do these things at this age? Girls welcome!"

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Are all waiters trash too?

Maybe all cleaning personnel aswell?

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yes they are. I used to call the cleaning lady at the office I worked for "Slave" all the time.

These people are utter failures. They didn't study hard at school, and that's why they're working in those shitty jobs. Maybe, someday robots will do those jobs, so these kind of people will finally starve to death.

We used to hire ragheads from the territories to do this ****, or some chinese people. damn, it sure was funny when we didn't pay them for months, and then threatened them with deportation, if they dare complain. . what a bunch of apes.


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seriously though, I don't think there is anything wrong with that.

"Different strokes for different folks."

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DRAMA!

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almost got you there, didn't I?

( holy ****, my sarcasm has returned. This must be a good sign for tomorrow's chemistry exam. )

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