03-02-2003 20:29									#31
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We're trying to become a non-working society.
We only need more Robots to suceed.

	03-02-2003 20:33									#32
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That's totally unrealistic. Who's going to make the beer?

	03-02-2003 20:34									#33
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... The robots?

	03-02-2003 20:38									#34
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quote: Originally posted by DanS These are real Disneyland benefits, though.

At the beginning. The 2nd tier benefit isn't that generous, but often better than a part-time job. I'm not sure what the current rules on having to take an offered job are.

It's odd that with the similarities of social systems in Austria and Germany, the unemployment benefits are that far apart.

	04-02-2003 01:46									#35
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Hey, I need clarification on one point: Would a vote of no confidence mean new elections?

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quote: Originally posted by HershOstropoler At the beginning. The 2nd tier benefit isn't that generous, but often better than a part-time job. I'm not sure what the current rules on having to take an offered job are. It's odd that with the similarities of social systems in Austria and Germany, the unemployment benefits are that far apart.

Im sorry - i have hard time not laughing when i see your nickname - am the only one here who has such associations with "Hershel of Ostropol" ????

	04-02-2003 02:23									#37
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A vote of No confidence is how Mr. Kohl went into Business ;=)

	04-02-2003 14:16									#38
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"Hey, I need clarification on one point: Would a vote of no confidence mean new elections?"

Not necessarily. The government can only be toppled by a "constructive" vote of no confidence, ie the Bundestag has to elect a new chancellor. But politically, the loss or almost-loss of the majority (as in 1972) or a new chancellor (is in 1982/83) will lead to new elections.

"Im sorry - i have hard time not laughing when i see your nickname"

Well, Hershel was supposed to be a funny guy.

" am the only one here who has such associations with "Hershel of Ostropol" ????"

I don't know what you associate. Unemployment benefits? Or something kinky?

	04-02-2003 17:49									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Stefu Hey, I need clarification on one point: Would a vote of no confidence mean new elections?

nope. Art. 67 GG.
a parliamentary majority (50% of all members of the bundestag) can elect a new goverment at anytime.
CDU/CSU and Greens would make a majortiy. so would CDU/CSU, FDP and Greens of course. CDU/CSU and FDP wouldn´t be enough votes, though.
SPD and Greens voting for a new cancellor would be possible, too.
PDS (the communists) can be neglected, since they only have two votes at all.

all it needs now is an agreement for a new cancellor carried by the majority of the parliament. but this is the problem. there seems to be an agreement that Schröder is the worst cancellor, germany ever had after wwII. OTOH I don´t see a way for an agreement for a new cancellor. the problem is not (only) Schröder, the problem is, there doesn´t really seem to be a proper alternative carried by the parliament:

Lafonatine is a coward
Koch is a fraud
Stoiber is a looser
and Merkel....hmmm.....Merkel is a woman.... (probably the best choice, though)

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"Merkel is a woman...."

That's not funny at all.

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quote: Originally posted by HershOstropoler "Merkel is a woman...." That's not funny at all.

explain please.