02-02-2003 21:50									#1
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I have yet to meet a girl that I can connect with on an intellectuel level. Thatīs why I havenīt been able to have a relationship with a girl, as friends or lovers, for longer than a year. I just canīt seem find one whoīs thinking on the same level as me. With (some) guys I donīt have that problem, just with girls. Whatīs up with that?

	02-02-2003 21:53									#2
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	02-02-2003 21:54									#3
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you're gay

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	02-02-2003 21:56									#4
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You're patronising and paternalistic?

	02-02-2003 21:57									#5
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Those are big words, mister!

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	02-02-2003 22:02									#6
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Mark,

You don't always wear the same clothing all the time, do you? By the same token, you need to have friends to talk about big issues, and you need to have friends to connect on an emotional level.

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"I have yet to meet a girl that I can connect with on an intellectuel level. Thatīs why I havenīt been able to have a relationship with a girl, as friends or lovers, for longer than a year. I just canīt seem find one whoīs thinking on the same level as me. With (some) guys I donīt have that problem, just with girls. Whatīs up with that?"

Women think differently then men do, that's all. They also think about different things than we, and they place a different emphasis of importance on things than we do. If you're trying to find a (natural) woman who acts like nothing more than a guy with a vagina, you'll be miserable.

My wife asked me once what I thought the difference was. After the usual disclaimers re: stereotypes, I told her "All in all, I think men will sacrifice their families to save the world, but women will sacrifice the world to save their families." She said that sounded about right.

	02-02-2003 22:08									#8
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I've met about one girl in my 19 years on this earth that I could connect with on my exact intellectual level.

Shame she won't talk to me any more.

Good thing I'm only 19, and have many more years to find another such girl.

	02-02-2003 22:16									#9
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quote: I have yet to meet a girl that I can connect with on an intellectuel level.

Make friends with lesbians, works for me...

	02-02-2003 22:19									#10
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I'd just give up.

	02-02-2003 22:20									#11
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What do you mean by "fail to connect on an intellectual level"?

That they are less intelligent than you? That they don't have the same interests?

	02-02-2003 22:25									#12
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you're probably looking in the wrong places.

Im guessing you chase around airheaded hot looking types and whine about how they cant be any smart. 99% of my friends who whines about the same thing usually fall under what I described.

	02-02-2003 22:28									#13
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I think he wants to debate with them endlessly, without having the girl take it personally... you know, like a guy. Of course that will never happen. All girls take all disagreements about all subjects very personally. A woman will even take indifference personally:

"This show is stupid. Can we watch something else?"
"Why are you always insulting what I like?!?"

"No, Capitalism is inherently flawed as explained in the following scholarly sources..., you see?"
sobbing "You just think I'm stupid!"

"How would you feel if I put the vase over here and put this frame over there, and we rearrange the kitchen like this?"
"Uh... ... Sure, whatever you want honey."
"You don't care about anything, do you!?! Why don't you ever pay attention?"

	02-02-2003 22:29									#14
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This thread is sexist! I ought to fit right in. Just make myself at home...

	02-02-2003 22:32									#15
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No, John I think he mean ANY intellectual discussion. Maybe not, but I have friends who ask the same thing over and over again, and frankly they themselves are so superficial that they are looking for wrong things in a girl. And when they realize this they're not happy wit it.

Maybe u have the same problem? lets hope Im wrong.

	02-02-2003 22:32									#16
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT I think he wants to debate with them endlessly, without having the girl take it personally... you know, like a guy. Of course that will never happen. All girls take all disagreements about all subjects very personally. A woman will even take indifference personally: "This show is stupid. Can we watch something else?" "Why are you always insulting what I like?!?" "No, Capitalism is inherently flawed as explained in the following scholarly sources..., you see?" sobbing "You just think I'm stupid!" "How would you feel if I put the vase over here and put this frame over there, and we rearrange the kitchen like this?" "Uh... ... Sure, whatever you want honey." "You don't care about anything, do you!?! Why don't you ever pay attention?"

Yeah, and it gets worse in online chat. I quote somethingawful.com in returning a greeting:

Girl: "hey whats up"
Moi: "yo yo yo, yours truly is getting ready to rap with Jesus and Santa Claus!!!"
Girl: "oh... what?"
Moi: "kidding around. how are you?"
Girl: "OH I'M GLAD YOU THINK I'M SMART ENOUGH TO NOT KNOW YOU WERE JOKING *end transmission*"
Moi: "wh?"

	02-02-2003 22:33									#17
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Not even my SO has the same level of interest in big issues (world events, economics, things like that) as me, and she is exceedingly intelligent. Face it, women like to connect on an emotional level instead.

Not that they don't talk about intellectual things, just not all the time like men do.

	02-02-2003 22:34									#18
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I prefer not to connect with my girlfriends on an intellectual level -- otherwise our relationship becomes incredibly dull ("Let's talk more about the meaning of life, sweet glorious loinburger!" "Why the hell would we want to do that?"). If they're dating me just because I'm smart (or not-smart, whatever), then I'm not interested. If they're dating me because I'm a sexy beast, then sign me up.

	02-02-2003 22:35									#19
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT I think he wants to debate with them endlessly, without having the girl take it personally... you know, like a guy. Of course that will never happen. All girls take all disagreements about all subjects very personally. A woman will even take indifference personally:

I know exactly what you mean. My g/f is yet to understand the difference between a debate and an argument. *sigh*
Women, eh?

	02-02-2003 22:36									#20
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Literature is actually a really good way to get into "sincere" conversations with that special Ms. Take a uni English course, if you can handle that stuff

	02-02-2003 22:38									#21
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT I think he wants to debate with them endlessly, without having the girl take it personally... you know, like a guy. Of course that will never happen. All girls take all disagreements about all subjects very personally. A woman will even take indifference personally: "This show is stupid. Can we watch something else?" "Why are you always insulting what I like?!?" "No, Capitalism is inherently flawed as explained in the following scholarly sources..., you see?" sobbing "You just think I'm stupid!" "How would you feel if I put the vase over here and put this frame over there, and we rearrange the kitchen like this?" "Uh... ... Sure, whatever you want honey." "You don't care about anything, do you!?! Why don't you ever pay attention?"

All hail the Wise One!

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	02-02-2003 22:40									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Zylka Take a uni English course, if you can handle that stuff

I can definitely recommend this.

On my English course at Uni about 75% of the students were women. Almost all of them were smart and attractive. Happy times ... happy times ....

	02-02-2003 22:45									#24
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I don't know, there are a lot more women in my english classes and there are some really cool ones, but then there are snobby sorority sisters... It is nice to meet the ones in my computer classes because either they don't know much about computers (which gives you an easy in) or they know enough for you to talk to them about it as equals.

Overall though, I like the ones in my major - many of the english classes I take emphasize the use of technology in writing, etc.

	02-02-2003 22:48									#25
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I prefer art class. Art chicks~...

	02-02-2003 22:59									#26
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I have yet to meet a woman as smart as me

I know they exist, but I have not met them. Sadly 2 of those smart women were lost yesterday morning.

	02-02-2003 23:02									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Saint Marcus I have yet to meet a girl that I can connect with on an intellectuel level. Thatīs why I havenīt been able to have a relationship with a girl, as friends or lovers, for longer than a year. I just canīt seem find one whoīs thinking on the same level as me. With (some) guys I donīt have that problem, just with girls. Whatīs up with that?

if you met a girl 'thinking on the same level' as you, they would realize youre gay/sexist...

	02-02-2003 23:21									#28
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Of course, we are forgetting the one things females are congenital geniuses at, and that is the remembrance of past transgressions, no matter how minor or trivial. It turns even the most innocent of coversations into a penance ritual:

"No, really. I like Moonlighting. I've been catching it on A&E at nights, after you go to bed."
"When did this happen? I thought you always hated the show?"
"Hated it? Where did you get that impression?"
"When we were first dating, about 8 years ago. You were going on about "stupid TV shows your parents like" or something and you mentioned that you thought Moonlighting was dumb. Considering how you freaked out about the fact that I liked Beauty and the Beast, I never brought it up again."
"I freaked out about you watching BatB?"
"Yeah, you got all upset and called it "stupid" - a very common word with you, by the way. I felt so bad for so long."
...
...
"... I'm sorry."

or their ability to read deep emotional crises' into the most mundane and involuntary of body motions:

"What?"
"What What?"
"You snorted. You're thinking about something. What?"
"I didn't know that I snorted."
"Yeah, you did. You make that sound you make when you're thinking about something that is exasperating you. What is it?"
"I don't recall making any sound"
"There was soundage. Don't deny it.... So, what were you thinking? What's bothering you?"
"Honey, I don't know. Just random, stream-of-consciousness stuff. I don't even remember right now."
"Oh yeah? Then why did you're eye twitch when you said that? You do remember!"

eventually you just make up some **** to satisfy her, ending with:

"... I'm sorry."

	02-02-2003 23:29									#29
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John, that's one thing Filipinas don't do. The little **** that drives men nuts is meaningless to them, they don't even see it, or think it.

	02-02-2003 23:30									#30
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I had a girlfriend who drove me nuts doing that.

Her: "What's wrong?"
Me: "What?"
Her: "What's wrong?"
Me: "What are you talking about?"
Her: "You're acting like something is wrong."
Me: "Am I? Well, I don't intend to act that way, since nothing's wrong."
Her: "So you're saying that nothing's wrong?"
Me: "Yup, nothing's wrong. Everything's great."
Her: "I really wish you'd confide in me."
Me: "Say what huh?"
Her: "I really wish you'd tell me when something's wrong, rather than going on the defensive like that."
Me: "I would tell you if something's wrong, if there were something wrong. However, since there is nothing wrong, I'm not going to tell you that something's wrong."
Her: "I'm just trying to help you, Kevin. Please, just open up to me."
Me: "You're ****ing insane. You know that? Completely ****ing insane."