04-02-2003 02:58									#1
	Should I Stay or Should I go? Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

Should I stay or should I go now?
Should I stay or should I go now?
If I go there will be trouble
An' if I stay it will be double
So come on and let me know

So, between the "wife" and I, we're gonna have about $1,000 back from our refunds (and after some bills are paid). We're strongly considering moving away from Jax. There are no jobs here, not much culture, and without a car life is seriously boring (although we've just started making friends here.

We're considering the Ft. Lauderdale metro area (and also North Miami Beach). There are many more web design jobs down there, and there are more upscale retail places (where Bunnygrrl can work).

The risk is: what if I get an offer someplace else just before or just after we move? Also, my unemployment will run out in early to mid April. Maybe we should hold on to the money to move up to Indianapolis to work at Dad's BK's.

I played it conservative last year, and that was a mistake in retrospect. Either way it's a risk, but I don't like the odds we have with staying.

	04-02-2003 03:04									#2
	Re: Should I Stay or Should I go? Got spare money?

quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara The risk is: what if I get an offer someplace else just before or just after we move?

If that happens you just have to say "oh well" and get on with life. I reckon you would be better off moving. Don't let the (remote?) possibility of something coming up where you are hold you back when you know there are more opportunities elsewhere.

	04-02-2003 03:10									#3
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Ft. Lauderdale sounds like the best option BTW.

	04-02-2003 03:13									#4
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That's what we think, but we want to be sure.

	04-02-2003 03:17									#5
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Have you applied for any jobs there yet?

	04-02-2003 03:19									#6
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I cant speak to your economic prospects.

I once lived in Jacksonville, and well, lets just say i was very happy to leave. I found it quite boring WITH a car, though that was a few years ago and I suppose its improved since then.

And of course I was single, and Jewish, and with the range of interests i have discussed here - well lets just say I was VERY happy to leave.

	04-02-2003 03:21									#7
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It's not rosy anywhere right now, I don't imagine.
If you keep moving on, are you hoping to just blunder into something?

This brings to mind something else.
I knew 2 sisters and a brother that used to travel back and forth between New Joisey and California.
They collected welfare and any gimmes they could.
HOW did they travel? I mean, other than by bus?

	04-02-2003 03:24									#8
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Caligastia is right - It all depends on if you have any job offers in the Fort Lauderdale area yet. If you haven't, I would stay where you're at until you some firm bites....of course if you're currently unemployed and have the money stashed away to live on until you find a job - then go for it I say.

	04-02-2003 03:34									#9
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Didn't you say you had a job offer in North Carolina?

	04-02-2003 10:19									#10
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If you move, I think the best options will either be Chicago (home home) or where the highest concentration of website design jobs is.

	04-02-2003 10:27									#11
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Do not move to any of the Midwestern states.

	04-02-2003 12:26									#12
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Your safest bet may be to work at your father's Burger King franchises while at the same time looking for Web design jobs in that immediate vicinity. Then again, I don't know what the market is like near Indianapolis for that sort of job, or what prospects your partner would have up there.

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	04-02-2003 12:36									#13
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Agreed. It might be best to got to Indianapolis, and look for other jobs from there.

	04-02-2003 13:10									#14
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all I know about Ft. Lauderdale is when our ship did a port call there we went to all the bars and strip clubs.

I think I went to every single bar on the beach. And there are a lot of them. I hit most of the strip clubs too

	04-02-2003 14:16									#15
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che,

Have you tried orange's suggestion, actively soliciting website design businesses from local SME's?

	04-02-2003 17:22									#16
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The high is like 20 something today in Chicago... yeah... uhmm... don't move back, it sucks... can I live with you?

Anyways, che, go wherever the jobs are...

	05-02-2003 00:55									#17
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The biggest problem with moving to Indy and working for dad is that it will reflect poorly on my resume. Once you leave the IT biz for something else, it's very difficult to get back in. Right now I'm fudging it with stuff like the Clash of Civilizations website, which looks like work on the resume even if I'm not getting paid for it.

I've had the occassional nibble here and in North Carolina, but nothing concrete. I have one prospect here in town, but I'm not gonna wait for them. On the 15th, Bunnygrrl and I are gonna be in Miami for an antiwar demonstration, and we're gonna go looking for apartments (after the demo).

If we stay with the current company, AIMCO, I won't have to go through another credit check (don't want no unecessary hits), drop a security deposit, and my rent here will be prorated. We could be moving as early as March 15 (beware the Ides of March!).

Bunnygrrl worked at Bloomingdale's in Chicago, and there are a couple Bloomie's in the area, as well as Macy's (which is owned by the same company). She was well paid and would probably get a good recommendation. She also worked for Jacobson's here in Jax, which was another super upscale store.

For me, there are quite a few more positions down there. Plus, one training school told me ( a year and a half ago) that if I ever moved to the area they'd be extremely interested in me.

To be honest, I have't seen a lot of web design positions in Chicago (even though I'm teaching myself ASP.NET and plan to move into web development).

	05-02-2003 01:01									#18
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Well, if you move to Austin I can hook her up with a job at Best Buy, but something tells me that's not the best option for y'all

	05-02-2003 01:06									#19
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Honestly, I'd love to move to Austin, despite it's distance from the ocean. But It's not really in the cards.

	05-02-2003 01:18									#20
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"There are many more web design jobs down there, and there are more upscale retail places (where Bunnygrrl can work)."
I think that just about says it all, really...

	05-02-2003 01:23									#21
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I just wish we had this extra money sooner. . . . Actually, I did, last year, when I was first laid off. I was warned by one of my collegues, however, that South Florida doesn't pay as well as NorthEast Florida. You know what I've discovered after a year? Not being paid as well beats not being paid at all.