06-06-2003 00:25									#301
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Sorry about the worm.

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*bump*

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2510 sent

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Save sent to Anatolia

	09-06-2003 09:55									#305
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And sent along to Mr. Clik

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2510BC to CerberusIV

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	12-06-2003 16:19									#308
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2470BC sent

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sent

	13-06-2003 15:29									#310
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	13-06-2003 19:27									#311
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When we meet in game, can we trade maps and screenshots with non-teammates? That is the question, but in a way it has already been answered.

Anatolia and I have traded screenshots several turns ago. I looked at the rules and determined it is acceptable. My understand is that we cannot trade techs with non-teammates. All other trading and agreements are acceptable.

In any case, I want everyone to know. The only advantage is knowing where not to look.

	13-06-2003 21:13									#312
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If I had had the chance I would have voted no, but since its a done deal :shrug:

Other possibilities will come up that have not been outlined in the rules. I think that we need to discuss these things before we do them. A big part of this experiment is trust that none of us will bend the rules. We're not playing against the puter and there will be differences of opinion. lmtoops and Anatolia see the rules one way, while I see them another. If it had not come up on this thread, those who traded screenshots with their potential enemies would have an advantage over those who hadnt. IMO thats wrong. We all have to use the same rules -whatever we as a group decide them to be.

	13-06-2003 21:14									#313
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Fine with me (and good timing since I just found another player to talk to).

Sent to StSwf.

	13-06-2003 22:27									#314
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At the time, I thought nothing of it. The rules were clear on what was not allowed. I was not trying to gain an unfair advantage. When I met SpencerH, he questioned the practice and so I brought it to the group.

We need to set the rules in advance. Unless it's an extreme circumstance, we should be able to set rules in advance.

	13-06-2003 22:32									#315
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I'll be back on-line on Sunday night. So until then, discuss and have a great weekend.

	14-06-2003 00:57									#316
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Just to be clear, I'm not saying my interpretation is right and leo's is wrong, I just think its better to have everyone on the same page.

	14-06-2003 15:13									#317
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On reflection I am not so happy about swapping screenshots prior to having mapmaking as it is basically a way of exchanging maps without having the necessary tech.

What I would have liked to go with is no contact about the game until you have met the other player's civ in-game. Then email is allowed, including verbal descriptions of terrain, etc.

No screenshots until at least one of you has mapmaking. By that stage you will have writing and probably an embassy anyway. After that any communication is allowed without restriction.

The only limits that apply for the whole game are the teams and no tech trading except with your team mate.

It would be a bit of closing the stable door after the horse has bolted but I would be happy to overlook what has happened and apply what I have set out here from now.

Just my thoughts.

	16-06-2003 11:12									#318
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I tell you that the information I received from Anatolia was minimal, so stopping the map trading at this point would give us a very small advantage (none from my point of view).

So I would be fine with stopping the tech swaps, today. I suppose a poll would be the best route.

After thinking about it, I think this is the best option. I agree with Cerberus, and agree to abide by these rules.

Leo

	16-06-2003 11:21									#319
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Imtoops made me do it! He said he'd invade me if I didn't trade screen shots!
A joke, of course. It was so early in the game that we hardly had anything to show each other (like children playing doctor ha ha ha . . . . sorry). I would agree to not trade anything at all until it's possible in the game and, except maps and contacts, nothing with non-partners.

	16-06-2003 15:27									#320
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This sounds like an agreement. Anyone have any objections to what is set out in my previous post? If not let's carry on.

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	17-06-2003 00:40									#323
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to StSwf.

This game is getting interesting!

	17-06-2003 01:37									#324
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I have just downloaded the UK PTW patch 1.21f,
all 10.4Mb of it. I don't really want to do a
dual install so before I install it I am
asking in all my PBEM's whether anyone is NOT
willing and able to move to 1.21.

If everyone is OK with 1.21 are we going to
move this game to that version?

	17-06-2003 04:14									#325
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I want to upgrade but I'll have to check with the people in my other games.

	17-06-2003 07:59									#326
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I've got dual install; so I'm good to go.

	17-06-2003 08:29									#327
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I upgraded.

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Upgraded

	18-06-2003 16:19									#329
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We have a delay while Stswf sends me the correct sav file (I've got cerberus'). He hasnt answered his email so hopefully he'll look in here.

	19-06-2003 16:18									#330
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sent

Does anyone else have a good idea where there partner is but havent made contact yet?