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HolyWarrior is offline HolyWarrior
Prince
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Apr 1999
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Eleven indicted on cigarette racketeering charges



February 4, 2003, 4:41 PM EST


DETROIT -- Eleven people accused of buying and selling contraband cigarettes in order to evade Michigan taxes have been indicted on racketeering charges, federal authorities announced Tuesday.

In separate documents, prosecutors allege some of those charged donated profits from the cigarette trafficking to the militant group Hezbollah, a U.S.-designated terrorist organization in Lebanon.

The indictment unsealed Tuesday charges each of the 11 with conspiracy to commit a pattern of racketeering activity, including contraband cigarette trafficking, possession of counterfeit cigarette tax stamps, credit card fraud, money laundering, arson and witness tampering.

The defendants are accused of buying cigarettes in North Carolina and the Cattaraugus Indian Reservation in New York, then bringing them to Michigan to be resold, according to U.S. Attorney Jeffrey Collins and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms.

Cigarette taxes are $12.50 per carton in Michigan and 50 cents per carton in North Carolina. Cigarettes are not taxed on the reservation.

The defendants would at times use fraudulent credit cards to purchase the cigarettes and then use counterfeit stamps to make it appear that Michigan taxes had been paid, the indictment says.


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What the hell did you idjits expect? Ban something, or tax it high enough that it might as well be banned, and you're going to attract criminals to smuggling like flies to honey.
Does 'The Roaring 20's' mean anything to you? Prohibition? Speakeasys? Al Capone? HELLOOOOOOOOOO....

Zero is offline Zero
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Sep 2002
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yeah legalize the reefers too!

Sava is offline Sava
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Mar 2001
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Social Conservative enact cigarrette taxes, foo! Get your stereotypes right.

Spiffor is offline Spiffor
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Nov 2001
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What if there was some coordination among taxes ?

Dauphin is offline Dauphin
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Jan 1970
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Taxing tobacco and alcohol heavily is not a preserve of the left. Thatchers government did it too.

Lonestar is offline Lonestar
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Aug 2000
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What if there was some coordination among taxes ?


That would imply governments knew what the hell they were doing. And, as we all know, the Universe would instantly collpse upon itself when any government showed the slightest inkling of common sense.

HolyWarrior is offline HolyWarrior
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Apr 1999
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Lonestar, I'll drink to that!

Spiffor is offline Spiffor
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Nov 2001
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That would imply governments knew what the hell they were doing. And, as we all know, the Universe would instantly collpse upon itself when any government showed the slightest inkling of common sense.
Stop all the federative nonsense, and become a centralized country like UK and France then. POWER TO THE CAPITOL !!!!

Dis is offline Dis
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Feb 2000
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this is a stretch...

Sava is offline Sava
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Mar 2001
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Stop all the federative nonsense, and become a centralized country like UK and France then. POWER TO THE CAPITOL !!!!


Nah... too many conservatives want the freedom to control things at the state level because they know that the majority would overrule a lot of their unethical regional practices. If Conservatives really wanted less government, they'd be for centralizing it and getting rid of useless redundant entities.

Lonestar is offline Lonestar
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Never! Long live the Federal System! Screw those FatCats in Washington!

Seriously, the USA is just too honkin' big to be centralized.

Imran Siddiqui is offline Imran Siddiqui

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The Potterverse
Jan 1970
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Stop all the federative nonsense, and become a centralized country like UK and France then. POWER TO THE CAPITOL !!!!




Oh wait, you were serious .

Spiffor is offline Spiffor
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Nov 2001
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Got spare money?

Nah I was kidding
(being European, I know I don't want all the power to be in the hands of Brussels, even if I do want the EU to have a serious coordiantion of taxes)

Berzerker is offline Berzerker
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topeka, kansas,USA
May 1999
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Hey, maybe the feds should start putting out ads accusing tobacco smokers of supporting terrorism like they're doing with other drug users.

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Nah I was kidding


I know... so was I .

Sava is offline Sava
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Berzerker... don't tempt Bush and Asa (Adolf) Hutchinson.

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May 1999
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Never! Long live the Federal System! Screw those FatCats in Washington!

Seriously, the USA is just too honkin' big to be centralized.




Russia? China?

DuncanK is offline DuncanK
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Dec 2002
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A centralized system would be much better. Hell we wouldn't even have had a civil war.

Lonestar is offline Lonestar
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Russia? China?


Oh, you mean the Russian Federation?

Buck Birdseed is offline Buck Birdseed
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Khoon Ki Pyasi Dayan (1988)
Nov 2000
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Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

Just break up into little countries. That'd, like, be cool.

Andrew1999 is offline Andrew1999
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Aug 2001
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Berzerker... don't tempt Bush and Asa (Adolf) Hutchinson.


FYI, Asa's not in charge of the DEA any more. He's at Homeland Security, where he got the division with most of the meat: TSA, Customs, Border Patrol/INS.

Berzerker is offline Berzerker
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A centralized system would be much better. Hell we wouldn't even have had a civil war.


Huh? The Civil War was caused by the centralisation of power.

Sava is offline Sava
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FYI, Asa's not in charge of the DEA any more. He's at Homeland Security, where he got the division with most of the meat: TSA, Customs, Border Patrol/INS.

Well... he's still an 4sshole

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