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Park Avenue is offline Park Avenue
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1. Love Life:
Instead of thinking, "Don't stuff up. This could be the girl I marry. Remember to make eye contact. Use kino. WAIT! Was that a dilated pupil I saw? O damn I hope I didn't miss my chance. OK, be calm and confident, just make eye contact. WAIT! She stopped talking! Think of something to say!" Just go with the flow - stop thinking and make the decision to have fun. Women will gouge each others' eyes out to get a chance with you, if you can just learn to be fun: you're no longer obsessing over women, you're no longer trying to figure out their signs, you're no longer trying to come up with neg-hits on the spot - you get rid of your constantly-interfering desire! Just DECIDE to chat and have fun with women.

That doesn't mean: be friends with all the women you know - HELL NO! It just means you should decide to be the sort of guy that, when people talk about you, the first thing they say is: "He is a FUN guy!" Show your playful side, tease them, laugh, make them laugh, keep the convo light and free... it's really not that hard to be fun. If you like a woman, don't suddenly turn into some calculating player who becomes obsessed, just keep it fun, and let her know that you're interested through your ACTIONS (never through your words!).
There's nothing more attractive to a woman than a fun man.

2. Total Self Confidence:
The key to projecting confidence is to get up off your butt and start INITIATING. Act as if you are entitled to do anything and everything in the world (within REASONABLE limits of the law). From simple things like walking into a room and being the first to help yourself to the munchies on the table, to initiating conversations with strangers, to neg-hitting (if she is hot and has an aloof attitude), to initiating anything sexual with her (intense kino, a kiss etc). Basically: stop waiting for others to take the lead and start doing it yourself.
Confidence is even more attractive than looks.

3. Kino (affectionate touching):
Start off with brief, non-sexual touching, for example: brush your arm against hers while walking, or briefly touch her hand to emphasize a point in a conversation.
If she responds positively, make it more sexual/obvious, for example: holding hands, or putting your arm around her.
Kino forces the girl to take you out of the friends zone, and plant you firmly in the sex/relationship zone.

4. Give your attention SPARINGLY:
As Giovanni Casanova says, this is your "currency." The less attention you give her, the more she will want your attention. This means not calling her (other than to set up a date), not calling a girl for at least 3 days after meeting her, not sticking by her side/only talking to her in a group situation.
The less attention you give her, the more she will want your attention. Give good attention, but give it sparingly!

5. Be Funny:
Make funny observations from a different point-of-view, tell it like it is (i.e. say what everyone is thinking, but what noone is willing to say), use sarcasm, do impersanations (as long as they don't significantly offend her), be creative! Most importantly, master the art of timing, as REd-xL says: "Find the holes in peoples' rhythms and jump through the loops. If you stutter, the timing is ruined. Your bark needs to be as sharp as your wit to master the art of timing."
Just a few words of warning: Don't try to be funny all the time, in fact, don't try too hard at all; don't try to re-tell "jokebook jokes" (e.g. "a man walks into a bar..."); avoid the type of humor where you end up telling everyone about a "funny moment" unless it is DEFINITELY funny, if it's not you'll find yourself saying "Uh, you, um had to be there...".
Also, cocky and funny works extremely well. Just be a little over-confident (not arrogant, but very sure of yourself) and tease her, play with her words, and use sarcasm... make her cry with laughter, but don't become annoying!
Women want a man who, more than anything else, is fun.

6. Take Pride in your Appearance:
Where a clean, ironed shirt (not necessarily a button-up shirt), use cologne, keep breath mints with you, keep your hair under control or use gel, generally avoid caps/hats, in my experience women are more attracted to clean-shaven guys, avoid digital watches, wear pants which match your shoes in style (jeans/khakis with relaxed shoes, more formal pants with better shoes), never wear ALL ONE COLOUR (e.g. completely orange/red/blue) except for a nice black shirt with black pants with polished black shoes, and don't feel the need to wear socks in summer. In general, keep it relaxed but stylish.
Good looks are what will get you initial attraction.

7. Be Positive:
This is extremely important. Smile, laugh, laugh at yourself, and DON'T COMPLAIN unless completely necessary. In general, avoid being negative because noone likes being around an unhappy person.
Moods are infectious. If you are obviously happy, the people around you will generally become happy too, and we're all searching for happiness.

8. Maintain Good Living Conditions:
Keep your house or appartment clean and odour free. Stock up on food basics, magazines, classic books, hygiene products, clean towels, condoms, and all the other DJ essentials.
Just like good grooming, a well kept living area is attractive.

9. Smile:
There is no better way to say "Hey, I'm happy, and I accept you". Don't stare, but look a woman right in the eye and smile at her. It conveys warmth and makes her feel good about herself.
A smile is a powerful weapon: you can break ice with it.

10. Have other Options:
Don't always be available! If she wants to do something with you, don't always accept. Say that you already had dinner planned with another woman (if you are not in an exclusive relationship), or that you're going to a bar with your buddies. Let her know about the other women in your life.
If she thinks that you are not desperate to be with her, and have many other friends (particularly women), her desire level will increase ten fold.

11. Get a Job and Have Ambition:
A job has sooo many plusses: money in the wallet, new friends, forging new connections, money in the wallet, more confidence, money in the wallet, and just the very process of going for a job and being declined is good for getting used to rejection and getting out of your comfort zone. But it's not good enough to be content with having a job! Write down a list of things you want to achieve in your life and aim to complete a certain number each year. These things can be as simple as: "To go to the Superbowl", and "To go bungee-jumping", to "I want to become the President". Ambition makes you more interesting and attractive, and just gives you something more to talk about!
Ambition is sexy.

12. Listen:
If you really want to keep a conversation going, just listen to what is being said. You'll get little clues all over the place for what to say next. For example:
-You: So what are you up to this weekend?
-Girl: Ummm, well I'm hoping to go to a few clubs, hang out with a few friends for coffee - ya know, the usual stuff.
*At this point she has already given you a lot of clues for what to say next: you could ask: Do you go to clubs often? What clubs do you go to? What music do you like? Who are your friends? Etc. Etc.
If you're an effective conversationalist, you'll pick up on the many clues in each statement, if you're not, you'll just say something like: "Ok, cool. Sounds good."
A final point: Talk less than 50% of the time. Try to make it a 40:60 talk:listen ratio.
Also, chiming in with "me-too" statements helps to keep the convo flowing, and makes her feel connected to you. For example -
Her: I love clubbing.
You: Me too, I love just getting out there with friends....... what clubs do you go to usually?
Women often comment that there's nothing sexier than a guy who listens.

I'll finish by emphasizing #1. If you can only take one thing away from this post, make it #1. It genuinely is the most attractive quality a person can have. Not only will you attract herds of women, you will actually enjoy your life.

OK, I want no other "I want a girlfriend" threads ever again.

Park Avenue is offline Park Avenue
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And no, I don't have one. Because I don't want to right now. I don't give a shit if this thread gets no replies, or if it makes it to 500. I hopes it makes the likes of PH, "Saint" Marcus and the like to stand up and notice! It's so fucking easy!

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suprisingly good advice, however superficial it may seem.

I have 4,5,7,9,10, 11 and especially 12 down cold. I've gotta clean my room and work a little more on my appearances and I'll be just like Bodds

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Suffering from ads?

here's my method.

Ask them to have sex with me for money

Zylka is offline Zylka
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EVERYONE TAKE ADVICE FROM THE VIRGIN RES-KID!!!

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Stew that is actually a really, really good post.

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Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

Zylka I've had plenty of sex/relationships in my lifetime and that advice is actually not bad. Just be fun, act a little cocky and most of all never pretend to be anything you're not.

Zylka is offline Zylka
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Yes it's just fine advice for the majority of posters, but if this doughy knob continues to pretend he didn't pull it directly out of a book or from another message board, I feel responsible to heckle!!!

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I just want to reiterate #7 - being positive is a plus. From my perspective, I like a girl who is positive and happy, so it figures that if I'm positive and happy and upbeat, girls will like me.

I used to be pretty negative, always *****ed about stuff, and I never got anywhere with girls, had few friends, etc., but now I'm a pretty positive person - optimistic outlook and all that, and things are changing.

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I end up paying for dinner and crap anyways. I figure it's just easier to pay for sex.

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#13: Not being a libertarian extremist arsehole

That'll help by leaps and bounds too

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Yes, well, if you think people I meet for the first time (especially girls) know my politics, you're even stupider than average for a lefty

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quote:
Originally posted by Zylka
Yes it's just fine advice for the majority of posters, but if this doughy knob continues to pretend he didn't pull it directly out of a book or from another message board, I feel responsible to heckle!!!




Yeah I went to college with the guy and it does sound a lot unlike him.

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quote:
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Yes, well, if you think people I meet for the first time (especially girls) know my politics, you're even stupider than average for a lefty


embarrassed of your beliefs?

David Floyd is offline David Floyd
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No, girls I actually get to know learn of my beliefs at some point. And by then it doesn't bother them.

Going out of your way to find points of contention early on, though, doesn't strike me as to bright. And talking politics almost always creates disagreement - and there's already a thread about why girls can't handle disagreements

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quote:
Originally posted by Boddington's
4. Give your attention SPARINGLY:
As Giovanni Casanova says, this is your "currency." The less attention you give her, the more she will want your attention. This means not calling her (other than to set up a date), not calling a girl for at least 3 days after meeting her, not sticking by her side/only talking to her in a group situation.
The less attention you give her, the more she will want your attention. Give good attention, but give it sparingly!
\
Bah. This is rather cruel sometimes. You can get girls without being evil and manipulative.

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You guys make it sound like its some military strategy. "Yes #7 should be reinforced with statement of blah blah."

Just dont be a wuss and trust your intuition. The best advice.

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Anyone who takes advice from Stew deserves what he gets.

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#14 Try not connect on the intellectual level all the time

I have everything except #4 down pat.

What's ted striker doing in that dark corner of the world anyway?

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Stew, if that is your own work it really is an outstanding effort. Maybe you need a DP for posts of yours that you actually put some effort into.

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I don't think Boddie wrote it - ted striker did. Does anyone of you actually read the title?

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Boddington's,



Do you have a user-name on, ah, certain other boards we might both have come across? Somehow you remind me of a guy called Stevie...

(And yes, folks, he did write that himself. Even if he had help with the ideas behind it.)

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Generic advice threads...people who make them should be advised of their stupidity.

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Advice like this is usually for people who have problems in that area anyhow...

Calc... I couldn't have said it better.

Seriously, if a girl doesn't like you for who you are... the real you, not the rule following weasel... then she's not worth it.

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She might still be good for a cheap ****.

And that's life's most valuable lesson.

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"(i.e. say what everyone is thinking, but what noone is willing to say)"
the problem, of course, comes when you think everyone is thinking one way, act accordingly, and discover, much to your eternal emberassment that they were thinking the other way.
aside from that, please get the hell out of my forum

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cheap ****s are fun, but they get old... well for me anyways. I require women who can actually form complete sentences and have intelligent thoughts.

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Now here is an excerpt from a REAL book on flirting and dating, currently half way on schedule for its' Fall release (by yours truly!!!)

(As part pf chapter 7) - Taking the invitation of dancefloor secuction politelty and with success:
If she is wearing a tube top and dancing provocotively on stage, this is your perfect chance to grab her hips from behind and join along. With such physcial acknowlegment, you will meet together with a smile... but just as her head turns back around to face the crowd, pull your barely flacid penis from your pants and quickly rub the head of it in a gentle circle against her exposed lower back. Hold her hips firmly while doing this, and be prepared to catch her wondering gaze with a sinister wall of a smile. Stand your ground visually as you quickly withdraw the member, and follow to slowly step back dancing playfully. She will not know what hit her, and will be in a rather confused daze of needing your specific scent for the rest of the night. Any men who approach her will quickly be made nervous and turn away at the subconscious realization of your chemical mark, and all it takes is a quick interception at closing time with her in conversation. Brush up against her subtly, and let your mark be known - by nature she will be dazzled that your brand has returned, and before realizing it will watch you smoke a cigarette from her bed while your worthy seed churns in her 17 year old belly!

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I think I remember seeing that one, Zylka. The music was bad though, even for a porn.

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