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I said it before and I'll say it again, the Yugoslavs will destroy the Soviets if they invade
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The combined might of the Warsaw Pact and the North Atlantic Treaty Organization will crush all resistance in the Balkans. Order and prosperity will be brought to the people of that region.
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Iron Chancellor
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Dear God, now that is an unholy alliance, Capitalist Imperialists and the Stalinist Counter-Revolutionaries versus the Worker's Paradise? Be careful, or you may disenfranchise the Third Way.
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Choke
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Comrade Kruschev is insulted by your accusation. The policy of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union is not to ally ourselves to oppresive regimes such as that of the so-called Land of the Southern Slavs. This is a multi-lateral action on the part of the nations of the Social Democratic Warsaw Pact in conjunction with the Social Democratic North Atlantic Treaty Organization. The definition of Social Democracy being the belief in Democracy and the belief in Social Justice which are two things the governments of most of the nations of the world believe. Of course seeing as the South Slavic Empire is ruled by an oppressive regime steeped in rhetoric rather than morals the major powers of Europe have decided a new, democratic, government is needed for the people of the region.
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Iron Chancellor
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Uh, right, and the massacre of the townsfolk of Novocherkassk in the northern Caucasus by Soviet troops (June 1962) caused by over-priced meat and butter was not oppressive at all.
Toppling a democratically elected leader, and a great one at that, is not democratic at all, but fascist.
We are the People's Socialist Republic of Yugoslavia, and wish to pursue a true and equal worker's paradise, with fraternity and liberty for all.
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Choke
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There is no alliance between the Warsaw Pact (ooc the Soviet Civ should be called the Warsaw Pact the way NATO is called NATO, not France) and NATO. There is simply an agreement that Yugoslavia is a mutual threat and must be eliminated.
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Iron Chancellor
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Mutual Threat? Yes, maybe to all you Capitalists, who have to worry about the affordable and efficient "Yugo," or the Soviets, because I am a warlike and nuclear-armed power....
Jesus Christ, if you want to say that you and NATO are partitioning me, just has Hitler and Stalin partitioned Poland, say it; don't make up some ridiculous excuse like "Yugoslavia is a mutual threat."
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Choke
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The Soviet Union would like to make it CLEAR that Jugoslavija is a THREAT to peace in Europe and that threat must be eliminated. If Jugoslavija were not a threat there would be no need to wipe it off the map.
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Iron Chancellor
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AND HOW ARE WE A THREAT!?!?!?!
You have offered no proof, nothing to justify your ridiculous statements. If I am such a threat, show the world (and us) your evidence.
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Iron Chancellor
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Bump the USSR
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Choke
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NATO is giving me it's nukes in a live game, that has to happen before I post my turn.
Last edited by Choke on 26-02-2003 at 04:41
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Choke
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Israel has been nuked and won't survive to play it's first turn.
All of Yugoslavia has been captured.
Helsinki captured.
Nukes withdrawn from Cuba.
Tehran expected captured next turn.
Addis Abeba expected captured soon.
NATO expected to turn over nukes in live game soon.
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Choke
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the turn
Attachment: ussr.zip
This has been downloaded 2 time(s).
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Choke
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You really won't play the first turn, it's all arranged in fact Jim is the one who's going to take the Israeli cities. I think Israel should be part of America, that would be a lot more realistic, this way I can nuke Israel with no consequence. Oh and really you didn't DO anything you're just there and you aren't an ally or a powerful enemy so you had to go, just like Yugoslavia.
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Iron Chancellor
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My nation may have been wiped out from under me, but we will fight on, and destroy you (ok, US, time to nuke Moscow). Also, did the event work whereby if the USSR conquers Belgrade, then did Yugoslav partisans pop up? That never happened in single player
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Choke
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Uh well Belgrade was the last Yugo city I captured and with that Yugoslavia was destroyed so I don't know if the event would have worked or not, I didn't know there was such an event.
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Iron Chancellor
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Yeah, there's one scripted, but it never seemed to work when I was the USSR
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Iron Chancellor
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I also wish to second FiGu's idea, maybe cause such conquests to result in "severe diplomatic consequences," i.e. loss of cash, because otherwise, if the USSR starts the game, there is no way of stopping it from making vast conquests
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Choke
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Well if my turn wasn't first NATO would have done it and I didn't take over Israel, I just nuked Tel Aviv and Jerusalem so the Arabs could.
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Iron Chancellor
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Well, yeah, but NATO wouldn't do it in 9/10 games, because if it had a spine to stand up to the USSR, it could.
It depends where jim panse wants the focus of the scenario to be. If he wants a Cold War to be WWIII, then I guess the scenario is fine. If he wants it to be more realistic, then the scenario should reflect the fact that the US would never allow NATO to nuke Israel, much less allow the Soviet Union to conquer Yugoslavia without just provocation.
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Iron Chancellor
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The remnants of the Yugoslav army have armed all partisans, and in fact Tito's right hand man is a Serbian democrat. The people cry out for liberation from the heel of the Soviet boot.
The news of American successes have the partisans rejoicing.
"The United States is come to liberate us!" cries an old woman who has seen her sons murdered by the Nazis and her grandchildren abducted by the Red Army.
Marshall Tito, given a fatal wound by a cowardly KGB agent, has been quoted as requesting the continued advance of the Americans to liberate Yugoslavia.
"Do not stop. Smash the Russians. Free Yugoslavia."
His opinion is echoed by US citizens of Serbian, Croatian, Slovenian, Macedonian, and Bosnian decent when they cry
"Don't let up. Give em hell!"
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