06-02-2003 02:33									#1
	Can I download Civ1 for free anywhere on the net? Get a bigger avatar today!

I have only managed to find a version in French at The Keep. Does anyone know where I can get an English version?

	06-02-2003 03:20									#2
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Edited.

Last edited by Andemagne on 07-02-2003 at 02:15

	06-02-2003 12:16									#3
	Put an end to popups!

I am not sure what you are trying to do but I am pretty sure as you've been around here for some time now that such questions/remarks are not tolerated!

So long...

	07-02-2003 20:42									#4
	Put an end to popups!

Hmmm...I thought it must be shareware because I was able to get the French version at the Keep.

	07-02-2003 21:21									#5
	Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

It's not shareware, and it's still copyrighted.

	07-02-2003 22:21									#6
	Tired of ads?

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Last edited by DanQ on 14-02-2003 at 09:09

	08-02-2003 23:19									#7
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quote: It's not shareware, and it's still copyrighted.

probably because of the huge global sales

	09-02-2003 18:08									#8
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Damnit Caligastia, you're violating the "Don't ask, don't tell" policy.

	10-02-2003 16:59									#9
	Tired of ads?

The common belief that if a game is no more sold or supported then its private commerce/exchange cannot harm the rights owner, alas, is not accepted by companies, and the copyright gives them a legal leverage to enforce their view.

I don't know, I'm not a lawyer, maybe it has to do with "intellectual property" rights...
or maybe the fact that someone is getting, using and enjoying their old product albeit they wouldn't be there to sell it anyway, makes them fear it wold spoil a market niche they're intentionally keeping empty... like they plan to commmercialise a new similar game which is just an eye-candy/rehash plug and they don't want to find out that it doesn't sell because also *new* customers prefer to play their old discontinued game, for free...

Most abandonware sites "claims" are indeed not sustained by law, they're indeed violating copyrights.
They dare, until a company files them a (law-backed-up) removal request...

	10-02-2003 22:47									#10
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Oops. sorry...

	10-02-2003 23:12									#11
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Be careful Caligastia... DanQ is gonna ream you

	13-02-2003 07:40									#12
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yeah this stuff isn't tolerated here.....

	13-02-2003 14:08									#13
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Well the mods don't seem to mind this thread


So long...

	13-02-2003 18:02									#14
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I have to say tho, that:
- I understand the legal grounds of company's claim
- I can't thus blame the site for enforcing a policy banning any possible cause of harm for the site itself, e.g. references to "software piracy".
- although I'm not friendly with all "the management" here, I can't avoid praising the product and service they provide with he site, of which I'm an avid user (strictly ON-TOPIC forums...), and I wouldn't be happy should the site suffer because of some legal infringement


...that said....

I trust the MODERATORS can do their work about the issue.
All this frowning on Caligastia, and delusion because the mods aren't more active in going at him (her?), really looks like sycophancy to me

imho. Frankly.

	14-02-2003 05:07									#15
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Calli, why'd you decide to tempt fate by restarting this thread after Dan closed the other one? I'd be careful if I were you

	14-02-2003 09:08									#16
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Calligasta:

As I have already quite recently, the kind of discussion you are engaging in this thread is not tolerated on these forums. Moreover, you have chosen to ignore my warning.

Your forum account is hereby disabled for the next 24hrs. for engaging in the said discussion. Your forum account has also had its post count reduced by 5%. Needless to say, anyone else discovered in starting or actively engaging/encouraging the discussions in questions will be dealt with similarly.

This thread is closed.

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Dan; Apolyton CS