07-02-2003 02:22									#31
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quote: For many black men, I think they prefer any white woman to a relatvely attractive black woman.

bah not true...

	07-02-2003 03:07									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Static23 For many black men, I think they prefer any white woman to a relatvely attractive black woman.

It only seems that way, because white cultures and Black culture have different ideas about beauty. White men tend to like skinnier women, while Black men tend to like "thick" women. So we look at handsome Black men with large white women and think, "Man, they'd date just any white women."

	07-02-2003 03:08									#33
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When you consider all the mainstream encouragement they get towards segregating themselves, is it really so suprising that blacks have more negative attitudes towards interacial relationships than whites? Whites are the main target of 'diversity' propaganda.

	07-02-2003 03:13									#34
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I had no idea that miscegenation was a real word before reading this thread. Thanks che!

	07-02-2003 03:14									#35
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That's because whites have historically been the segregationists, and intreracial relationships aside, still mostly are.

	07-02-2003 03:17									#36
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Chegitz:

That's a crazy stereotype...

	07-02-2003 03:20									#37
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara That's because whites have historically been the segregationists

It's natural for any race to have the desire to segregate. Now that blacks have the chance to in this country, they are doing it.

quote: , and intreracial relationships aside, still mostly are.

How do you figure that? Also, don't you think it's a bit unfair to put interacial relationships aside when deciding which race is the most segregationist?

I thought you were against making generalizations about racial groups.

	07-02-2003 03:21									#38
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the reference to black men liking thick women and white men liking skinny woman... thats a bullshit stereotype that can be disproven ridiculously easily

	07-02-2003 03:26									#39
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quote: I thought you were against making generalizations about racial groups.

it seems he is not... and i had expected better from Chegitz... though most liberals are probably closet racists or at least patronizing racists, chegitz seemed relatively non-racist...

	07-02-2003 03:26									#40
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Nothing wrong with dippin in the chocolate... or taking the chocolate thunder for that matter...

	07-02-2003 03:27									#41
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quote: it seems it is not... and i had expected better from Chegitz... though most liberals are probably closet racists or at least patronizing racists, chegitz seemed relatively non-racist...

Things were so nice when you were banned.

	07-02-2003 03:28									#42
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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer the reference to black men liking thick women and white men liking skinny woman... thats a bullshit stereotype that can be disproven ridiculously easily

Since I actually have Black family and you don't, why don't you just keep your ignorance to yourself. I mean, you were what . . . four when I started living with Black people.

	07-02-2003 03:36									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Caligastia Also, don't you think it's a bit unfair to put interacial relationships aside when deciding which race is the most segregationist? I thought you were against making generalizations about racial groups.

Segregation is about saying, "you can't live here, you can't work here, you can't be here." Anti-micegenation is about saying, "you can't love her." Anti-micegenation is a part of segregation, but it's not the whole thing.

Also note that I used terms like "historically," "tend," and "mostly." You need to carefully consider not just what I wrote, but how I wrote it. I am hedging my terms.

	07-02-2003 03:37									#44
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You'd make a great lawyer Che

	07-02-2003 03:39									#45
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Chegitz:

I live in inner city Philly. I definently know more black people than you do... and i've known them since i was a baby.

and frankly, very few black boys i know like this whole fat ****... liking big asses is one thing (and you know damn well every male likes that **** a la that whole **** about Jennifer Lopez a few years back) but fat women... yeah right.

I know only a few guys who like fat women and they're pretty evenly divided between black and puerto rican...

that whole fat **** is a stereotype that you fell for, chegitz

	07-02-2003 03:45									#46
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I lived on the Northwest side of Chicago and had a lot of black friends growing up. I still talk to some of them. This is one of those true stereotypes. What are you smoking Albert?

	07-02-2003 03:48									#47
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I have to agree with Albert on this one. I think it's an untrue stereotype. I also have a lot of black friends, and they no more go for fat women than their white counterparts. It's all a matter of PERSONAL taste.

	07-02-2003 03:49									#48
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Maybe we should define thickness first... i might have been too hasty... what did you mean, Chegitz, when you said "thick" and "skinny" women?

	07-02-2003 03:51									#49
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Ming:

It's cause on tv there's always that general idea that black men like bigger women and all that ****... and you know that any thing like that on SNL or MadTV or whatever other show can not be taken seriously...

any stereotype has some truth in it, but that truth is not significant enough... i'm positive you can find just as many white and rican men who like bigger women as black men who like bigger women


thanks

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Thick headed with skinny ears.

	07-02-2003 03:52									#51
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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer Chegitz: I live in inner city Philly. I definently know more black people than you do... and i've known them since i was a baby.

Living in the same neighborhood and living in the same room are two very different things. There is a qualitiative difference. I am family, you're a wannabe. I don't pretend to be something I'm not. You're a wannabe. You think you're keepin' it real. Yeah, real dumb.

There's a lot more to Black people than inner-city Philadelphia. If you had half the brains you think you have, you'd be smart enough to realize that the word "tend" doesn't mean "always" or "all" or necessarily even "mostly."

	07-02-2003 03:57									#52
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Of course it's a matter of personal taste. But if you did a study, you'd find a strong percentage, probably a majority, of black men that like big women. Stereotypes are called stereotypes for a reason. They don't represent the entirety of the groups they are linked with. But there are usually enough people that fall into a stereotypes for them to become stereotypes in the first place!

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	07-02-2003 03:57									#53
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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer Maybe we should define thickness first... i might have been too hasty... what did you mean, Chegitz, when you said "thick" and "skinny" women?

Ah, grasshopper, you show the beginings of wisdom.

Thick = bigger than Marilyn Monroe, but not necessarily obese. Aka, "healthy." In the white fashion world, these women would be considered fat.

skinny = Jeniffer Anniston, Calista Flockheart, etc.

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I'm gonna get banned soon, I think. I've been pretty ornery of late.

Let me apologize, Speer. I'm sorry for questioning your intelligence.

	07-02-2003 04:11									#55
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damn, just when I hoped this thread was about to go red-hot...

	07-02-2003 04:12									#56
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Chegitz:

There are black people i know today who i was friends with in kindergarten... that's closer than 'marrying' into a family.

secondly, i have never met anyone who thinks jennifer aniston and that other woman (she's alley mcbeal right?) is attractive.

Thirdly, I know people who like that thickness but they're even between the races. Bear in mind that being a teenager, I am far closer to knowing what my fellow males like in women than you, an almost middle aged practically married man


thanks

	07-02-2003 04:15									#57
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I still don't buy the stereo type... Whenever I go out drinking with the guys from work (black... white... asian... hispanic...) the overall preference is for the thinner than Marilyn Monroe female. I've never heard ANYBODY call somebody heavier than that a fox... or claim they would love to jump in the sack with them.
And after a few drinks... people seem REALLY honest about their opinions, and are more than willing to share them with everybody.

There was one guy who liked the more "full figure"... but he was a white guy

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I imagine in your case, Ming, it's a class thing. BAPs tend to be paragons of society's standards of beauty. (I tried to date a BAP once, but a scraggly white guy wasn't really up to her family's standards, made her crazy too cuz she really liked me a lot.) Middle class Black men are therefore more likely to tend to see that as their standard of beauty.

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You could be right on that Che... Everybody I hang with are professionals... (even though back in college, I don't remember any of my black or white friends desiring heavier women either )

So maybe it's not a black stereo type at all... maybe it's a "class" stereo type

	07-02-2003 05:38									#60
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What does BAP stand for?

And you were right to back off che, you and albert boh shouldn't get into this whole "I know black better than you" ****, it makes you both look ridiculous, like you're comparing your gentlemen and bragging or something...