06-02-2003 04:59									#1
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Well, I'm starting this because I want to be sure these orders get out.

Overall, the city will both grow and produce a settler at the same time, dropping it to size 2. The city WF's should continue with max growth (and ironically max shields), utilizing both cow bonuses (WF #7 and #8).

The settler and Pamplona's spearman garrison are free to run to the silks and hopefully beat ND there.

The queue for the city should be reset to produce a spearman next. It is timed to be done in 1650 BC or 6 turns from the start date in 1830 BC.

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	06-02-2003 18:08									#2
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the garrison of saragossa should run out to the silk in order to prevent a possible INVASION from the land-crazy Demogyptians and patrol the are for a while until the settler arrives there.

	06-02-2003 19:50									#3
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Barcelona Worker: Move to silks (NW)

	06-02-2003 19:53									#4
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Barcelona starts to build spearman.

EDIT : WF on #5

Last edited by astrologix on 07-02-2003 at 00:37

	06-02-2003 23:59									#5
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Senor Dejon, with our lord Togas's Permission, has named me his Interim Govenor of Saragossa.

Orders for Saragossa
Change build from Barracks to Wall
Next items in the Q are to be a Worker-Temple-Horse

I will post on this desision soon.

Eta Tamali

	07-02-2003 04:04									#6
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Have TEG follow Basher.

Have the Pamplona warriors move towards the coast, whilst staying on high ground. If you see barbarians, kill them. If not, get us some better views of the ocean.

If no orders for the Madrid group, move them North, back towards Los Sierra Brilliantes. Perhaps we'll get a better idea of the settlement situation up north.

--Togas

	07-02-2003 12:51									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Togas If no orders for the Madrid group, move them North, back towards Los Sierra Brilliantes. Perhaps we'll get a better idea of the settlement situation up north.

That was my intention too, except if the barbarian we spotted last turn is still around (in that case, we shoud obviously crush him to gain some more experience)

	08-02-2003 00:31									#8
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We must ensure that ND doesnt colonize Silk city.
This is in my opinion our single most important point in the agenda. the saragossa spearman is not needed as a garrison right now, we need to discover if the yellow ones have a settler on the way, and if so stop it.

	08-02-2003 02:41									#9
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quote: Originally posted by LzPrst the saragossa spearman is not needed as a garrison right now

Not needed? With a GoW warrior 4 tiles away from it?

	08-02-2003 02:43									#10
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The save has arrived

Dejon, if you can do the save in the next 4 hours, please PM me. I will not be home for another 4 hours or so.

I also invite anyone who is online to join us in chat should we do the save this afternoon. I am currently at work and pretty busy today, but I can sneak away for a few minutes to assist with the save.

--Togas

	08-02-2003 06:13									#11
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Senor Dejon is unavailable, apparently. That is why he asked me to be Saragossa's Iterim Govenor.

Eta Tamali

P.S. please forward the save to me..

	08-02-2003 06:59									#12
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results of the turn

GoW offers us CONTACT WITH VOX. I reply with 25g and hit "accept". I also send a short PM to Panzer (See Diplomacy thread)

TEG moves N, follows Basher. GoW is now 2 turns from removal, and seem to be complying with our requests.
Pamplona Warrior moves W
Magyar moves South and defeats barbarian hut, taking 1 damage. 25g earned.
Madrid exp. moves N

Settlement group moves NW, NW, W.

Barcelona Worker moved to Silks

Barcelona production changed to spear
Pamplona production changed to spear
Saragossa production already changed to wall.

ND's "Arne" spotted nw, nw, nw of Magyar warrior, on a hill.

No new wonders being built

We are weak compared to ND, average compared to GoW, and strong compared to Lux.

Marcomanni tribes near saragossa!

Images posted here

--Togas

	08-02-2003 15:55									#13
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I'm afraid that ND is lying to us. They are stronger to us and consequently to Lux and have no reason to fear them. IMO, they could settle east (Brilliants Valley) without threat from Lux. They are trying to find argumens to justify their demand for settle in our lands...

On another hand, I don't think they have already a settler on the jungle near us to found the silk city : Neu Thebes has still 4 pop, and we can doubt that they have send a settler from another city for this purpose.

	08-02-2003 18:59									#14
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I completely agree with Astrologix. I've written more about that at the ND border thread.

code:
SCORE:
ND  59 (+ 1)
RP  57 (+ 1)
GoW 41 (+11)
Lux 32 (+0/+1)

	08-02-2003 19:14									#15
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Oliverfa,
Could you summarize how many cities each team have currently ?

	08-02-2003 19:28									#16
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Of course, I will gladly do it.

code:
Number of cities:
RP:  4
ND:  3
GoW: 3
Lux: 2

ND:
4000 BC: First city founded.
3500 BC: Border expansion.
3250 BC: Second city founded (presumably from the goody hut).
2630 BC: Third city founded.
1950 BC: Border expansion.

GoW: 
4000 BC: First city founded.
3500 BC: Border expansion.
3000 BC: Posible second city. Very close to the first
               because the score only grows by 4 points
1870 BC: Third city at a normal distance

Lux:
3950 BC: First city founded.
3450 BC: Border expansion.
2590 BC: Second City.

	08-02-2003 20:39									#17
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quote: Originally posted by astrologix I'm afraid that ND is lying to us. They are stronger to us and consequently to Lux and have no reason to fear them.

I think we should make something like this apart of any arguements we make to justify our continued settlements of Cow Valley.

They just want the luxuries.

[edit]:Perhaps we should admit we've had a settler on the way since prior to the border issue (even if it not true). Be polite about it, but also use it as a way to gauge if they have a settler coming our way.