10-02-2003 06:18									#61
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Well, the important thing to me is that y'all are able to play it so that I can hear more about it. Though it does make me wonder about the font, if it is that bad.

Bah, who am I kidding. You live in Oregon, right? It's not _that_ big of a state...I could probably find you before the game gets published...

	10-02-2003 08:00									#62
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Whoa whoa whoa. I'm not going to reveal spoilers in the game, ya know.

	10-02-2003 08:48									#63
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quote: Originally posted by JonahFalcon I loved the two hours I played before the copy protection kicked in my review copy. :smile:

Some law magazine I was reading said that copy protection is being sued in court...cause it's been proven to hamper actual CPU performance.

This is the USA, people sue over everything -- lol

	10-02-2003 09:23									#64
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There's a way to defeat piracy - huge, thick manuals of 200-300 pages, and NO online documentation at all.

	10-02-2003 10:53									#65
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Actually some copy protections (not all) DO hamper game performance. The one that comes to mind is Morrowind's copy protection, which actually had noticeable decreases in game FPS (just try it with the No-CD exe to compare).

The other way it hampers game performance is by causing the game to not even work, which was a big problem for Neverwinter Nights for awhile, until they just removed it in a later patch.

So they do actually have some sort of case.

As far as no online documentations..... that will work for awhile, until some guy decides to scan it and put it up for grabs with a file-sharing program.

And most of the time, the walkthrough/FAQs you find at gamefaqs are better anyway.

	10-02-2003 18:44									#66
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Well, my computer won't run games with securom or safedisc copy protections. I don't know if it's the DVD drive, mobo or some corrupted dlls. I am talking about the original copies BTW, not back-ups.

Looks like I'll have to go to megagames or gamecopy world and wait until someone cracks it. Hopefully it'll be cracked by the time it's released in the UK and the game won't be localised.

I'm totally with Jonah F that cool documentation is the best way to stop piracy. Since I essentially have to crack every game I *buy*, I know that it's very easy to do even for the computer-illiterate. It's just a pain-in-the-arse download for every game I buy.

	10-02-2003 18:56									#67
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quote: Originally posted by leiavoia It's dirty and scribbly looking. It doesn't anti-alias correctly so some parts of letters look solid while others look fuzzy and soft. It would appear that it was someone's first attempt at making their own font from scratch, know what i mean? I don't understand why they couldn't just plug in some standard TT font.

That was my impression too - that it wasn't as legible as MOO2. The galaxy map doesn't seem as easy on the eye either.

Andrew

	10-02-2003 19:41									#68
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quote: Originally posted by campfreddie Well, my computer won't run games with securom or safedisc copy protections. I don't know if it's the DVD drive, mobo or some corrupted dlls. I am talking about the original copies BTW, not back-ups.

Its almost certainly the DvD drive. A little bit of net searching should be able to confirm that. There are quite a few sites that will list which makes or models won't work with the various releases of Securom and Safedisc.

	10-02-2003 21:31									#69
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When you complete your review are you going to compare it to Space Empires IV, CIV III, or EU II?

	10-02-2003 21:58									#70
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ARGH!

This thread makes me feel like the only poor sap without Moo3 at home. Always the "last to know" etc. etc.

	10-02-2003 22:46									#71
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What is IG/Quicksilver going to do if the copy protection prevents people from playing on certain systems the way a lot of games do?

	10-02-2003 22:55									#72
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quote: Originally posted by Pax Africanus What is IG/Quicksilver going to do if the copy protection prevents people from playing on certain systems the way a lot of games do?

Ever heard of "patches"?

	10-02-2003 22:57									#73
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i have several games that never got patched, and the manufacturers were only willing to send replacement discs.

	10-02-2003 23:51									#74
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If the copy protection makes it so the game doesn't work for people, IG/QS have 3 options.

1)Remove it in a patch
2)Force their users to just get No-CD exes and face increased tech support requests by people who don't know what they're doing and downloaded viruses and trojans instead.
3)Have their games returned.

Options 2 and 3 also include increased # of tech support requests by people complaining.

So the best course of action for them is #1.

If it comes down to this for me, I'll probably go with Option 2 if they don't do Option 1.

	11-02-2003 01:53									#75
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Okay, this time I got the OFFICIAL CD's (the ones that are gussied up - one green graphics, the other purple graphics - that will be in the boxed game) and a REAL manual - the manual is the typical "small but very thick" type that are prevalent these days.

	11-02-2003 02:51									#76
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Have fun! Write us a good review!

	11-02-2003 04:57									#77
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How much is a cheap flight London - NY these days and where do you live?

	12-02-2003 05:53									#78
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Re Copy protection:

I'd say one way to limit piracy is to keep providing free updates to the game after release for a long period of time that can only be downloaded by registered users.

So even someone who gets a pirated version of the game, if the game is good they'll likely end up buying it to get the free updates rather than hunt around for a cracked patch.

I personally think piracy is greatly overstated. It's hard to feel bad for game companies when often games are released buggy, then patched to minimum functionality and then abandoned.

	12-02-2003 07:22									#79
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quote: Originally posted by Draginol Re Copy protection: I'd say one way to limit piracy is to keep providing free updates to the game after release for a long period of time that can only be downloaded by registered users. So even someone who gets a pirated version of the game, if the game is good they'll likely end up buying it to get the free updates rather than hunt around for a cracked patch. I personally think piracy is greatly overstated. It's hard to feel bad for game companies when often games are released buggy, then patched to minimum functionality and then abandoned.

This is absolutely true. I know a few people who cracked Warcraft III and then finally went out to buy the game after one of the patches ruined their cracked versions.

It works.

	12-02-2003 12:18									#80
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If only you could download "offical" no-cd cracks. It makes me mad changing the cds over all the time. I don't know how this would affect piracy though.

-Jam