06-02-2003 09:31									#1
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UGO.com got its review copy of Master of Orion III (including yours truly), so I imagine all the other pubs got theirs, too.

Keep your eyes out for reviews (including my review as well. )

	06-02-2003 10:31									#2
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hey!

*pushes jonahfalcon over*

you're not the only one you know!

seriously though, what do you think? i'm a bit, um, taken aback by the, uh, total profusion of information. I think the first turn took me an hour or two.

	06-02-2003 11:00									#3
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That's interesting, considering that's almost exactly what PennyArcade said about the game itself. I'm not too worried about that aspect - I don't mind a strategy game that I can't just jump right into, and there are a lot of settings to adjust early on. So long as every turn doesn't take an hour, I'll be happy.

What are your thoughts re: the opening movie and graphics? How do the menuing systems look when animated?

Oh yeah, to either of you - please, if at all possible, a small movie of virtually anything in the game would be a godsend. Especially loved would be a movie of space combat.

Thanks!

	06-02-2003 11:10									#4
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there is already a movie with space combat out there! don't have a link right off hand though. sorry. i'm sure Apolyton has it somewhere close at hand.

Intro movie: very cool. first look at harvesters. watched it several times before i even played. I showed it to each family member just so i could have an excuse to watch it again!

UI - pretty slick in movement. The fonts blow though, sorry.

there's so much to learn. forget about your virgin MP game. not gunna happen. trust me. everything penny arcade said is true. you will be playing for days or weeks before you even understand what you are doing. so many buttons... and that's after they downsized it!

I've only played a few hours though, so i can't say too much about big space battles or anything grand. i'm not even sure how to land ground troops or attack planets yet. i feel so helpless.

	06-02-2003 11:27									#5
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Well, leiavoia, if there is a film of it, it's hiding awfully well. None of the major or minor Moo sites I've looked at have had anything like it - and these are sites that have Emrich talking about his design docs.

I'm thinking it might've been something that you press types get that us lowly folks don't. Anyhoo, if you'd like to show it off, please do so. I know it's something a lot of people at IG and here have been asking for.

ETA: it's amazing the information that you can find by looking at a person's profile. Heh. Can't wait to see what orionsector has to say about it.

	06-02-2003 12:04									#6
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Turn 1 took less time for me, much less, but, then again, I was already somewhat familiar with the game from the Strategy Guide, which took pains to explain how to spend your first few turns.

I'm not going to discuss the game til my review is finished, though.

	06-02-2003 12:31									#7
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I guess I'll have to start my own site so I can get my copy of MOO3.

	06-02-2003 12:39									#8
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Any of you boys with the review mind telling me if it came in mass produced box or on secret unmarked discs?

Thanx

	06-02-2003 12:39									#9
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I have a feeling it'll be out this time next week. Just a feeling.

	06-02-2003 12:40									#10
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quote: Originally posted by rhofman Any of you boys with the review mind telling me if it came in mass produced box or on secret unmarked discs? Thanx

They were special discs made of 18K gold, along with a round trip ticket to Hawaii. I love being bribed. hehe j/k

	06-02-2003 12:46									#11
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quote: They were special discs made of 18K gold, along with a round trip ticket to Hawaii. I love being bribed. hehe j/k

That is just not a nice way to treat those of us who are still of the non.

	06-02-2003 17:04									#12
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Eh Tony Lets sent tha Boyz to pay him a Visite? Eh?

	06-02-2003 18:25									#13
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oh, please, post your review.

	06-02-2003 19:08									#14
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quote: I have a feeling it'll be out this time next week. Just a feeling.

The game, or your review, Jonah?

	06-02-2003 19:41									#15
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So are you guys held down by any NDA's as such or are you free to release details about everything? also the people at IG didnt happen to slip you a release date did they?

	06-02-2003 20:39									#16
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Not in this case. There was an implicit NDA for Civ III. For MOO3, there is none - but then again, they released the STRATEGY GUIDE 3 months ago, so obviously, they're not hiding anything.

	06-02-2003 20:40									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Lee Johnson The game, or your review, Jonah?

The game.

	06-02-2003 20:45									#18
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There is a big (in size) movie of space battle, i think it was in GS or something. You could try to use metacrawler.com to find it. That's what i had done.

For the reviewers: When you guys plan to release your reviews? Im new here, so what's your website's URLS?

Alexnm, are you also from Brazil?

[]s,

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	06-02-2003 21:01									#19
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Is there more to the Penny Arcade reference than the two liner on its front page?

	06-02-2003 21:27									#20
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quote: Originally posted by LucasCorso There is a big (in size) movie of space battle, i think it was in GS or something. You could try to use metacrawler.com to find it. That's what i had done. For the reviewers: When you guys plan to release your reviews? Im new here, so what's your website's URLS?

I plan to have a review up by release. www.ugo.com

	06-02-2003 22:03									#21
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http://www.orionsector.com/

we'll probably be putting up a 3-way review about the same time as UGO's, mid/late next week.

i did not get the strat guide and i would pay good money for a paper manual at this point ("Help me! Please!").

Rumor has it that all of the the review copies were burned copies with some copy protection problem. however, since mine got lost in the mail, i got some of the first *stamped* gold masters :-)))

i am not under an NDA, but you won't be getting harvester bits out of me. they are pretty creepy though. i mean genuinely CREEPY. and not what i thought they were. well, kinda, but not, you know...

also, the manual is on .pdf on the second disk. but no ALT+TAB makes that not so usable.

	06-02-2003 22:18									#22
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quote: Originally posted by leiavoia also, the manual is on .pdf on the second disk. but no ALT+TAB makes that not so usable.

that's what they invented the printer for

	06-02-2003 22:33									#23
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quote: Originally posted by leiavoia there's so much to learn. forget about your virgin MP game. not gunna happen. trust me. everything penny arcade said is true. you will be playing for days or weeks before you even understand what you are doing. so many buttons... and that's after they downsized it!

and that would be why I was laughing and shaking my head everytime one of the punters would scream "They've dumbed it down into a mass-market game!"

ahem, yeah... right.

One friend of mine who loves Civ sat down at the game for the first time two days ago and said holy F***in s***!!! Then he started laughing and said, so this is the 'simple' version?!?'

We both laughed for a while about that.

hope you guys enjoy it, glad you liked the intro and the harvesters

	06-02-2003 23:49									#24
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Cool, Rantz.

	07-02-2003 00:01									#25
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quote: Originally posted by leiavoia http://www.orionsector.com/ we'll probably be putting up a 3-way review about the same time as UGO's, mid/late next week. i did not get the strat guide and i would pay good money for a paper manual at this point ("Help me! Please!"). Rumor has it that all of the the review copies were burned copies with some copy protection problem. however, since mine got lost in the mail, i got some of the first *stamped* gold masters :-))) i am not under an NDA, but you won't be getting harvester bits out of me. they are pretty creepy though. i mean genuinely CREEPY. and not what i thought they were. well, kinda, but not, you know... also, the manual is on .pdf on the second disk. but no ALT+TAB makes that not so usable.

CRUD!!!!!!! Chantz said in an AAR that Alt+tab would work.... *grumbles*

	07-02-2003 02:57									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Rantz and that would be why I was laughing and shaking my head everytime one of the punters would scream "They've dumbed it down into a mass-market game!" ahem, yeah... right. One friend of mine who loves Civ sat down at the game for the first time two days ago and said holy F***in s***!!! Then he started laughing and said, so this is the 'simple' version?!?' We both laughed for a while about that. hope you guys enjoy it, glad you liked the intro and the harvesters

Hopefully the rest of us get it soon.

	07-02-2003 03:57									#27
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quote: Originally posted by dulahan CRUD!!!!!!! Chantz said in an AAR that Alt+tab would work.... *grumbles*

That's it, the dog and the cat are outta here. We must protect the manual at all cost, even plunking down more money to get each page laminated.

	07-02-2003 03:58									#28
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Actually, Chantz et al have said repeatedly that alt-tab is disabled for the game. That was an unfortunate but predictable thing to occur.

	07-02-2003 04:23									#29
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quote: Originally posted by JonahFalcon Keep your eyes out for reviews (including my review as well. )

Cool. It will be nice to see a review from someone who's taste in games is well documented. I may not always agree with Jonah, but at least I know where our likes and dislikes coincide.

	07-02-2003 04:34									#30
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quote: Originally posted by kalbear Actually, Chantz et al have said repeatedly that alt-tab is disabled for the game. That was an unfortunate but predictable thing to occur.

Actually, he said in one of the Chats very recently that Alt+tab works. So did the BTs. Read up on them.

http://www.css.tayloru.edu/~jefoote/moo3/

Though I've also heard XP could care less if it is disabled and even if it is by the program. I can only hope this remains true.

-The fact it is signifcantly cuts down on my MOO3 time. I almost always am doing other things when playing Strategy games that require me to get out of the game I'm playing. And no its not Cheating. Generally work or Mu*ing.