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chegitz guevara is offline chegitz guevara
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Downing St dossier plagiarised
Iraq

Published: 6 February 2003
Reporter: Julian Rush

The government's carefully co-ordinated propaganda offensive took an embarrassing hit tonight after Downing Street was accused of plagiarism.

Read sample of the accused plagiarised text

The target is an intelligence dossier released on Monday and heralded by none other than Colin Powell at the UN yesterday.

Channel Four News has learnt that the bulk of the nineteen page document was copied from three different articles - one written by a graduate student.

On Monday, the day before the US Secretary of State, Colin Powell addressed the UN, Downing Street published its latest paper on Iraq.

It gives the impression of being an up to the minute intelligence-based analysis - and Mr Powell was fulsome in his praise.

Published on the Number 10 web site, called "Iraq - Its Infrastructure of Concealment Deception and Intimidation", it outlines the structure of Saddam's intelligence organisations.

But it made familiar reading to Cambridge academic Glen Ranwala. It was copied from an article last September in a small journal: the Middle East Review of International Affairs.

It's author, Ibrahim al-Marashi, a postgraduate student from Monterey in California. Large sections do indeed appear, verbatim.

A section, for example, six paragraphs long, on Saddam's Special Security Organisation, the exact same words are in the Californian student's paper.

In several places Downing Street edits the originals to make more sinister reading.

Number 10 says the Mukhabarat - the main intelligence agency - is "spying on foreign embassies in Iraq".

The original reads: "monitoring foreign embassies in Iraq."


And the provocative role of "supporting terrorist organisations in hostile regimes" has a weaker, political context in the original: "aiding opposition groups in hostile regimes."

Even typographic mistakes in the original articles are repeated.

Of military intelligence, al-Marashi writes in his original paper:

"The head of military intelligence generally did not have to be a relative of Saddam's immediate family, nor a Tikriti. Saddam appointed, Sabir Abd Al-Aziz Al-Duri as head..." Note the comma after appointed.


Downing Street paraphrases the first sentence: "Saddam appointed, Sabir 'Abd al-'Aziz al-Duri as head during the 1991 Gulf War."

This second line is cut and pasted, complete with the same grammatical error.


plagiarism is regarded as intellectual theft.

Sample text

Government dossier: (page 13), published Jan 2003

"Saddam appointed, Sabir 'Abd al-'Aziz al-Duri as head during the 1991 Gulf War. After the Gulf War he was replaced by Wafiq Jasim al-Samarrai.

After Samarrai, Muhammad Nimah al-Tikriti headed Al-Istikhbarat al-Askariyya in early 1992 then in late 1992 Fanar Zibin Hassan al-Tikriti was appointed to this post.

These shifting appointments are part of Saddam's policy of balancing security positions. By constantly shifting the directors of these agencies, no one can establish a base in a security organisation for a substantial period of time. No one becomes powerful enough to challenge the President."

al-Marashi document: (section: "MILITARY INTELLIGENCE", published sept 2002 - relevant parts have been underlined

Saddam appointed, Sabir ‘Abd al-‘Aziz al-Duri(80) as head of Military Intelligence during the 1991 Gulf War.(81) After the Gulf War he was replaced by Wafiq Jasim al-Samarrai.(82)

After Samarrai, Muhammad Nimah al-Tikriti(83) headed Military Intelligence in early 1992(84) then in late 1992 Fanar Zibin Hassan al-Tikriti was appointed to this post.(85) While Fanar is from Tikrit, both Sabir al-Duri and Samarrai are non-Tikriti Sunni Muslims, as their last names suggest.

Another source indicates that Samarrai was replaced by Khalid Salih al-Juburi,(86) demonstrating how another non-Tikriti, but from the tribal alliance that traditionally support the regime holds top security positions in Iraq.(87)

These shifting appointments are part of Saddam’s policy of balancing security positions between Tikritis and non-Tikritis, in the belief that the two factions would not unite to overthrow him. Not only that, but by constantly shifting the directors of these agencies, no one can establish a base in a security organization for a substantial period of time, that would challenge the President.(88)


Blair is such a dork.

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Congrats on digging this up.

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It's laughable, it really is. One of the articles was written about the first Gulf War.

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Oh man, the Brits can't even be our lackeys properly.

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Plagiarists...

I really hate those guys...

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Oh man, the Brits can't even be our lackeys properly.


That's the point, the UK is not the lackey of the US, if we were, Bush would've declared war already, the only thing holding him back is Blair - which means that Blair is telling Bush what to do, not the other way round...

This is hilarious if true - is that a report from the Grauniad?

First Powell participated in his own character suicide with that embarrassment of an intelligence report and now this - Saddam must be laughing in his bunker!

This whole thing is turning into a farce...

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Do you have a link?

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Do you have a link?


Ask, and you shall recieve.

http://www.channel4.com/news/home/z...06/dossier.html

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I dunno if this report is reliable... but this is amusing.

Btw, how do you think intelligence works? We spend billions of dollars so our agency's can find things out from CNN!

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Oh man, caught with his trousers down!

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Oh yeah, man. This'll blow all the "attack Iraq" arguments out of the water!

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Good joke.

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I think if this gathers pace any "evidence" presented by Blair will be forever tainted.

Thanks Tony.

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It's ridiculous, but lamentably I fear that more things on this world happen this way than we imagine - it could be out of "Wag the Dog" british version!

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BBC has a story on this (great interview w/Glenda Jackson, too), but I haven't been able to find any mention at NYT, CNN, CBS, MSNBC, or (needless to say) FAUX. Maybe it's there, but it certainly isn't prominent. I find this hard to believe because I know that the left-wing American news media wouldn't want to pass up an opportunity to embarass the administration.

I'll keep looking.

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Yeah, it's in all the news sources here.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Politics/...,890917,00.html
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/articl...-569669,00.html

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It was all over our TV news last night so viewers in the USA may get it this evening. The best part is that Colin Powell apparently praised this report in his address to the UN.

The most favoured explanation is that British Intelligence (MI6) would not release genuine information so someone threw this report together for the sake of saying something. The last report from MI6 concluded there was no link between Saddam and Al-Q, and it was not widely publicised by the 10 Downing Street press office.

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Not that I'm the first but:

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Originally posted by CerberusIV The most favoured explanation is that British Intelligence (MI6) would not release genuine information so someone threw this report together for the sake of saying something. The last report from MI6 concluded there was no link between Saddam and Al-Q, and it was not widely publicised by the 10 Downing Street press office.


The opposite in fact. It was leaked then denied by the government.

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CNN does have it now, although it's under 'World' news, not 'SHOWDOWN: IRAQ.'

No sense bothering Americans about it.

UK accused of lifting dossier text

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Beautiful.

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Bump.

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The government never claimed exclusive authorship.

But of course - the left avoid the facts and just try to spin.

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I feel so much better now, after having "borrowed" "some" internet texts when I wrote all kinds of papers during my university studies.

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