09-02-2003 07:53									#31
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quote: um, weren't you about to volunteer last year?

Sorta. But that isn't relevant because a)I would not expect people to support me going to war, and b)I would simply go AWOL rather than go to war, except in absolute self defense. Actually, I was joining the military to get my way through college/law school paid, and valuable free experience. Just think of it as my way of ****ing the government for robbing me.

	09-02-2003 07:55									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin That was 54 year ago. Your post said in the last 50 years.

Oh close enough.

	09-02-2003 08:01									#33
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If you went AWOL Floyd then they'd give you an opportunity to be come acquainted with a military disciplinary barracks. I’ve never been an inmate in one but I hear they make civilian jails look like heaven.

There is also no statute of limitations in the UCMJ or time off for good behavior so they can pick you years later and you’ll still have to serve your time plus extra for escaping justice for so long. I remember a case about two years ago where a middle aged guy in Minnesota got pulled over for a speeding ticket and the policy computer said he had gone AWOL from the Army in 1968 so they hulled him away.

Being AWOL isn’t something you want to mess around with.

	09-02-2003 08:14									#34
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I'd rather be AWOL than a murderer.

	09-02-2003 08:19									#35
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quote: I'd rather be AWOL than a murderer.

I think you might reconsider that statement after your first ass-raping in Leavenworth...

	09-02-2003 08:22									#36
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Why would I want to murder someone to avoid getting ass-raped? How is that moral?

Besides, this is irrelevant - I would have been going in as an officer, so couldn't I just resign my commission?

Anyway, point is, I was joining for the money that the government owed me - they tax the **** out of me and nothing happens to them, so damn if I'm not gonna try to get it back. If they asked me to do something immoral, I wouldn't do it. Period.

	09-02-2003 08:23									#37
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quote: Why would I want to murder someone to avoid getting ass-raped?

You've obviously never been ass-raped before...

quote: Anyway, point is, I was joining for the money that the government owed me - they tax the **** out of me and nothing happens to them, so damn if I'm not gonna try to get it back. If they asked me to do something immoral, I wouldn't do it. Period.

You're a real piece of work.

	09-02-2003 08:27									#38
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Well, I oppose rape, theft, and murder. Nothing wrong with that.

	09-02-2003 08:28									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Newfoundland joined Canada in 1949.

They had a vote.

	09-02-2003 08:30									#40
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quote: Originally posted by Frogger They had a vote.

Canada didn't have to accept them.

	09-02-2003 08:44									#41
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I thought you'd bring up the contention by many Newfs that the vote was rigged.

And when was the last time a government said no to extending its sovereignty without having to fire a shot?

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quote: Now we find out that the government was planning this war to drop more laws on us that will take away our constitutional rights.

You are too much.

quote: Well, I oppose rape, theft, and murder. Nothing wrong with that.

But the others at Leavenworth don't .

	09-02-2003 12:50									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten quote: Why would I want to murder someone to avoid getting ass-raped? You've obviously never been ass-raped before...

So it doesn't bother you at all to become a murderer?

	09-02-2003 14:49									#44
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The average American can't even find Iraq on a map. Still they support the war. I hope at least the bomber pilots know where to fly.

	09-02-2003 15:43									#45
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people fell right in line by backing vietnam didnt they, supporting our boys and everything?

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quote: The average American can't even find Iraq on a map. Still they support the war. I hope at least the bomber pilots know where to fly.

Do they?

	17-02-2003 12:10									#47
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quote: Originally posted by Frogger I thought you'd bring up the contention by many Newfs that the vote was rigged.

No, no! The Canadians are imperialistic expansionists because of the continuing oppression of the French in Quebec. Do you see protesters outside Canadian embassies? No. What a bunch of hypocrites.

	17-02-2003 14:49									#48
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Wars... kill... people!

Just say no.

	17-02-2003 15:02									#49
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quote: Originally posted by Straybow No, no! The Canadians are imperialistic expansionists because of the continuing oppression of the French in Quebec. Do you see protesters outside Canadian embassies? No. What a bunch of hypocrites.

Too bad we actually let Quebec have a vote on sovereignty any time they want...

	17-02-2003 17:22									#50
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Newfoundland joined Canada in 1949.

I actually think it is the other way around. The UK gave Labrador to Newfoundland in 28.
Canada then decided it wasn't enough and gave itself to Newfoundland in 49.
The referendum was actually to decide whether or not the newfies accepted.

	18-02-2003 02:14									#51
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Someone sent me this picture in an E-mail. I think it says it all. (Don't miss to read the small text at the bottom!)

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	18-02-2003 02:42									#52
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Generalizing is unbecoming... personally I know the position and names of all Mid-East countries and I remember learning it in 6th grade. Obviously when we have shows that purposely seek out the dumbest people imaginable you'll find people without a clue, but I'm willing to bet the majority of High School grads know the geography af the Americas, Europe and the Mid-East. Granted, I'm not sure about Africa or Asia, but that's what happens when your education is Euro-centric.

Edit:My keyboard is isn't registering everything...

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	18-02-2003 03:02									#53
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Nice pic Olaf. I'm going to get that printed on my poster for the next anti-war protest

	18-02-2003 03:19									#54
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quote: Originally posted by MacTBone Geralizing is unbecoming... personally I know the position and names of all Mid-East countries and I remember learning it in 6th grade...

Well I think Apolytoners are a little better educated than the average citizen (in their respective countries). After all, it takes some intelligence and education to become a Civilization fan.

Thus, perhaps it does not make much sense to discuss general level of education here. However, I have personally met plenty of stupid Americans who cant differ Austria from Australia.

	18-02-2003 03:21									#55
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quote: Originally posted by laurentius Nice pic Olaf. I'm going to get that printed on my poster for the next anti-war protest

That makes more sense than waving the hammer and sicle as the commies in my home town did.

	18-02-2003 12:24									#56
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quote: Originally posted by Frogger Too bad we actually let Quebec have a vote on sovereignty any time they want...

Imperialist propaganda. A truly democratic country would have a 98% voter turnout, just like Iraq's recent re-election of Saddam Hussein.

	18-02-2003 17:04									#57
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quote: Originally posted by Straybow quote: Originally posted by Frogger Too bad we actually let Quebec have a vote on sovereignty any time they want... Imperialist propaganda. A truly democratic country would have a 98% voter turnout, just like Iraq's recent re-election of Saddam Hussein.

Almost there :

There was a 93.52% turnout in the 1995 referendum.

Registered voters : 5 087 009
Turnout : 4 757 509
Invalid (rejected ballots) :86 501. (1.82%)

Yes option (separation) : 49.42 % (2 308 360)
No option (status quo) : 50.8% (2 362 648)

No chads. Pregnant or otherwise.

	18-02-2003 17:04									#58
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	18-02-2003 23:04									#59
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Obviously the Imperialists stuffed the ballot boxes.

	18-02-2003 23:50									#60
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Actually, Straybow, you're mixing things up.

Saddam had a 100% turnout with 100% approval. (Every single last ballot...impressive)

Mussharaf the trusted ally (who is not a dictator, really) got 98% approval in his last "referendum".