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Craftsman is offline Craftsman
Chieftain
São Leopoldo, RS - Brazil
Feb 2001
time: 02:12
Question  Old Post 19-02-2001 21:00
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Yes, right! But only for AI.

Have you ever had (is this correct?)
a unit of yours bribed by a Legion or
a Elephant or some unit else than a
diplomat or spy?
In many of my (haunted) games, if I
leave my border units alone (w/o stack)
they´re bribed by non-diplo units.
Grrrr...
Moments after, I chase the bribing
unit and I really don´t find any
diplomat or spy. Very "fair" AI move...
Comments?

Tizzy is offline Tizzy
Warlord

Aug 2000
time: 05:12
Post  Old Post 19-02-2001 21:21
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And I thought it was just me!!

I haven't had this happen for a long time, but I have experienced it before - I've also had my subjects of a Democracy bribed, but again, not for a long time.

John-SJ is offline John-SJ
King
Silicon Valley, USA
Aug 1999
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AI military units receive special diplomatic skills training that is not available to human player units.

John-SJ

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Liverpool, United Kingdom
Nov 1999
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The Democratic unit bribe bug was fixed somewhere before 2.42 - so if you have the latest (SP) 2.42 patch it does no longer happen.
It is generally agreed that AI units of any kind can on occasion bribe player units, but thankfully, there have been few reports of AI non-diplo types bribing a city!

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Chieftain
São Leopoldo, RS - Brazil
Feb 2001
time: 02:12
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quote:

Originally posted by Tizzy on 02-19-2001 11:21 AM
And I thought it was just me!!

I haven't had this happen for a long time, but I have experienced it before - I've also had my subjects of a Democracy bribed, but again, not for a long time.


Thanks, Tizzy!

At least I´m not crazy (yet). I saw this kind of
bribing several times. But none of my cities were
bribed by non-diplo units. Also, during
Democrazy - er, Democracy - none of my
units were bribed (yet). I think this
is a very irritating "feature"...

Thanks to all civ players that replied!

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Olathe, KS, USA
Jul 1999
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Wow. I thought I had heard about all the Civ bugs! Hey Mac-types, be sure to thank Brian Nesse for cleaning up all the bugs in our MPG version!!

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King
El Paso, TX USA
Mar 1999
time: 22:12
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Here's the deal:

1) The AI can use ANY unit to bribe any single unit of yours.

2) This is NOT a bug. It's simply one more AI cheat (no different than the way they ignore trireme rules), and it happens in EVERY version of Civ2

3) It doesn't matter what government they have.

4) The only AI civ that can't do this is Barbarians.

5) Your only defense is to have at least two units stacked together (the AI can't bribe stacks), or be a Democracy.

6) Only AI Diplomatic units can bribe your cities.

7) The chances of the AI using this cheat increase with every difficulty level. If you play at Deity, this is a BIG problem!

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