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Thorn is offline Thorn
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http://politicalhumor.about.com/lib...nostradamus.htm

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Fake.

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Definitely not. I'm still waiting for that meteor to impact near India.

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Yeah, that one's fake. There's a lot of debate regarding who Nostradamus' third antichrist, known as Mabus, is and GW Bush is right now the front-runner. Here is an excerpt from a website.

"Certainly the next target for the U.S. war on terrorism can be found by reversing the letters "mabus" to "subam" then reversing any letters again, such as a "b" into a "d" to get "sudam." That leaves one the freedom in anagramming to replace one vowel "u" with an "a" to get "Sadam." The law of eliminating or adding redundancies to letters allows one to double our "d" to get "Saddam" Hussein.

Play the same game with Usama bin Laden and you can find that u-s-a-m-a + b has nearly all the fixings to cook Nostradamus' code name: "Maaus + b." You need not take the "b" from "bin" Laden to replace one redundant "a," but if you wish you can take the "b" and get "Maabus" then cut the redundant "a" to get "Mabus."
The first email is from Robert Davis, who granted me permission to share it with you all. Robert stated, "I believe you are missing a major point in your analysis, why do we continually assume the 3rd antichrist will come from the East? The first 2 did not, granted they are the most obvious choice at the moment but we are ignoring one inescapable fact. There is only one superpower capable of bringing total devastation upon the world, the USA! They already bring "terror from the sky" and have taken the first step to ignoring human rights and rules of war etc. I believe George Bush deserves investigation as perhaps the 3rd antichrist. To bring evil upon the world does not necessitate being perceived as evil ,war has a momentum of it's own and quite often outstrips the best intentions of men. Just a thought!!"

Next we have a letter from Antonio Alvarez, who, like many of those who write in this vein, have stated no animosity against the U.S. president but cannot deny that Nostradamus' rules of anagram must consider the possibility - no matter how far fetched it might seem - that Nostradamus intended G. W. Bush as "Mabus." I have received permission from Antonio to share some extracts of his letter with you all:

"It was very interesting to read in the Hogue Prophecy Archive, 4 June 2001 ["Who will be Mabus?" http://www.hogueprophecy.com/archiv20.htm], the way you tried to decode the name Mabus to try to find out who Mabus could be. But in all your decodings you did not try another possibility. If you take the first two letters of Mabu, that is "Ma", and rotate them 180 degrees, and then you mirror the turned around "a" you will get "gW", then you add "bus", the resulting name is "gWbus". Rotate 180 deg. "Ma" you get "pW", then you mirror "p" and turn it into "g", add "bus" and you get gWbus. The president of the United States is George W. Bush, and in Latin languages the "h" is silent, so it would be "George W. Bus", you use only the inititial of the first name, and you get "GWBUS". Don't you think this is another possibity?"

My theory is that "Mabus" is a conglomeration of Usama, Bush, and Sadaam combined.

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Nostrodamus's quatrains are so vague and manipulateable that anyone can twist any of them to mean whatever they want. Anyone who thinks this guy predicted squat is deluding himself.

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Sure.........

Now if just someone could find a way to translate all these anagrams and postpone all disasters just some few 100 years - then I would be happy . And I guess my children would be happy too .

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AAAAARGH

FAKEFAKEFAKEFAKEFAKE

IT'S FAKE, PEOPLE! It's a fake that's done rounds since, I think, the election 2000. I thought it died somewhere around 9/11, but IT'S MADE IT'S COMEBACK, APPARENTLY.

AAARGH, I MEAN, AAAAARGH

You, sir, just ruined my day.

Thorn is offline Thorn
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Yeah but admit it, it's funny as hell.

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Easy Stefu.

Soon the sun will stand high over Suomi again and then your winterdepression will be over.....

Just remember to keep your knife sharp and the wodka cold.

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Well, if we think about the word 'Mabus', there is clearly 'abu' in the middle, it gives us liberty to take the 's' from the end and continue the next word with it, making it Abu S.. if we rotate 'M' it gives us 'W', which is two 'v's, giving us two more extra letters. 'V' is almost 'Y', so that makes it Abu Sayy. Now we only need to add 'f', and we get Abu Sayaf, terrorist group, which have close ties with Al Qaeda. Abu Sayaf is working in Philippines, so that gives us Philips. So Al Qaeda and Philips are working together, making these new tv-sets that sends signals making everyone turn to islam and give fatwas to neighbours setting the world on fire, thus 30 years war. I would closely investigate other electronic companies as well, like Braun. You don't have to be Einstein to realize, that Hitlers wife was Eva Braun, and neo-nazis and al qaeda have established connection, wanting to destroy all Jews. So, at least Al Qaeda, Philips and Braun are working together. No wonder Germany is opposing to this coming war!

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Also I'd look very closely at this thing. Saddam has been offered a haven from Saudi Arabia. Now Idi Amin is there too, enjoying his well earned retirement. Idi Amin gives us Admin, and who is the admin? Markos! No wonder Greece is opposing this coming war!

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Yeah, that one's fake. There's a lot of debate regarding who Nostradamus' third antichrist, known as Mabus,

Former MS governor Ray Mabus is the antichrist! I knew those Democrats were up to no good.

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DinoDoc, you're definitely on to something. Lets think about this. Maybe.. just maybe Nostradamus twins are really Bush senior and junior.. they do look like each other. So, the destruction starts when twins fall apart. This could be interpreted, that the republicans are going to lose, also not that Ray Mabus is Democrat. So this is a clear sign that when Dems win, the world is doomed.

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I wonder how accurate everything that nostradamus said would be if we had his original scrawls ... rather than a recollection of an interpretation of an interpretation of a translation off hearsay of the original .

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^^^It'd probably be condensed down to a single quatrain that says something like, "Humanity is screwed! Flee Earth while you can!"



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Certainly the next target for the U.S. war on terrorism can be found by reversing the letters "mabus" to "subam" then reversing any letters again, such as a "b" into a "d" to get "sudam." That leaves one the freedom in anagramming to replace one vowel "u" with an "a" to get "Sadam." The law of eliminating or adding redundancies to letters allows one to double our "d" to get "Saddam" Hussein.


ROFL,

Observe the stiking similarity in Lucky seven and Friday the 13th. First you subtract 7 from 13 and flip the number. Then take the square root and multiply by 7 and divide by 1 and divide by 3. Observe! The result is 7, Wasnt that amazing?

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Definitely not. I'm still waiting for that meteor to impact near India.

Gatekeeper


Man! You really hate Bollywood films or what?

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No, no, no.

"Mabus" can be broken down into "Ma" and "bus." Now, all we need is an "h" for a Bush. If we rotate the "m," and the "a" could be a mistake for a period, we got W. Bush.

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Originally posted by Boris Godunov
Nostrodamus's quatrains are so vague and manipulateable that anyone can twist any of them to mean whatever they want. Anyone who thinks this guy predicted squat is deluding himself.


very true. I thoroughly studied him and his quatrians some years back out of interest. After buying and borrowing a half dozen books on him, I found that each book had a different, sometimes completely different interpretation of the quatrain, all of them making sense tho in by the authors arguements. It was funny how one book written in the 50s referenced many of the quatrains to refer to WWII, yet one written in the 80s thought it predicted some battles in a future WWIII. These are just the tip of the iceburg of the things i found.

My conclusions after my little spiel is this:

Nostrodamus

Kman

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