12-02-2003 02:05									#1
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I know that a harbor acts as a means of transporting resources to other continents. My question is: Does it also work for two coastal cities on the same continent?

In other words, if I smash all the roads/rails between two cities, is their still a resource link via their harbors?

	12-02-2003 02:33									#2
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yes, they also work for cities on the same continent

	12-02-2003 05:11									#3
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Yes, but you don't get the food bonus for coast and sea squares for the cities connected by road to the harbor...

--Kon--

	12-02-2003 07:09									#4
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What food bonus?

	12-02-2003 13:10									#5
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Ordinarily, coast and sea squares produce only one unit of food. Harbors increase their output to two units of food.

	12-02-2003 13:33									#6
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This is why even rubbish cities in the Artic can be persuaded to grow. With the addition of the commercial docks and offshore platform, a coastal city can really produce stuff.

-Jam

	12-02-2003 16:43									#7
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quote: Originally posted by War of Art This is why even rubbish cities in the Artic can be persuaded to grow. With the addition of the commercial docks and offshore platform, a coastal city can really produce stuff. -Jam

hi ,

"commercial docks"

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	12-02-2003 16:51									#8
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Its in PTW, panag. They add +1 commerce in every coast & sea square. You should really get it, you know.

Oh, and you have a nice day too.

-Jam

	12-02-2003 16:52									#9
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It's new in PTW, it gives you extra trade on coastal and sea squares. I'm not 100% sure though, it's only my first game on PTW and I have just discovered gunpowder. I think they appear later in the game.

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quote: Originally posted by War of Art Its in PTW, panag. They add +1 commerce in every coast & sea square. You should really get it, you know. Oh, and you have a nice day too. -Jam

hi ,

in PTW yes , .... but this is the civ 3 general thread , so there was some misunderstanding , .....

thanks , two copies shall do , ..... however when it comes out for MAC , well huh , that three , ..... the desk is filling up slowly with civ disk , .....

have a nice day

	12-02-2003 17:17									#11
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Does the commercial docs do anything else than increase commerce on coast&sea?

	12-02-2003 19:44									#12
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do anything else? Seems to me this is more than enough! They have made OCC much easier in the late game, seeing as the optimal city spot always contains several coast and maybe 1 or 2 sea squares.

	12-02-2003 19:50									#13
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Before anyone asks why, this is beacause in an OCC, you really want to build the Colossus.

-Jam

	12-02-2003 22:16									#14
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Sorry if I'm repeating a faq, but is there a list of what the differences are between regular CivIII 1.29f and the latest PTW?

	13-02-2003 05:35									#15
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Here's the readme file:

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	13-02-2003 06:47									#16
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I knew about the food bonus that the harbor gives to the city who builds it. But a food bonus to cities connected to the coastal city? Only the "lake" cities then.

And yeah, commercial dock and stock exchange really make a difference in PTW. I missed the last one in Civ3 1.29.

	13-02-2003 06:51									#17
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quote: Originally posted by panag hi , in PTW yes , .... but this is the civ 3 general thread , so there was some misunderstanding , ..... thanks , two copies shall do , ..... however when it comes out for MAC , well huh , that three , ..... the desk is filling up slowly with civ disk , ..... have a nice day

hi ,

Many of the topics here contain references to PtW , familiarise yourself with it , and have a nice day

	15-02-2003 00:36									#18
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Harbors act as 'roads' on coastal squares, and on sea and ocean squares after learning Astronomy and Navigation/Magnetism restpectively.

If the civ doesn't know Astronomy, then the cities can only be connected if there is coastal tiles separating them. This usually means, 'on the same continent'.

	15-02-2003 20:21									#19
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Has anyone ever successfully managed to conduct a naval blockade? I have attempted it a few times but it never seems to work. Of course if the GUI had some better feedback on this it would be easier to tell.

	15-02-2003 20:32									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Mikel Has anyone ever successfully managed to conduct a naval blockade? I have attempted it a few times but it never seems to work. Of course if the GUI had some better feedback on this it would be easier to tell.

Yes, but it is very hard to pull off. You have to choke off all paths and any paths they could use through friendly nations.

If you have PTW, you can do a debug scenario to see how it works.

	18-02-2003 18:47									#21
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I thought commercial docks only give you a bonus shield in square that is alreadyproducing one shield?!

Whta is OCC?

So long...

	18-02-2003 21:07									#22
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quote: Originally posted by The Pioneer I thought commercial docks only give you a bonus shield in square that is alreadyproducing one shield?! Whta is OCC? So long...

No, you're thinking of the offshore platform. The commercial dock is something new with PTW. OCC = One City Campaign, or something along those lines. You try to win the game with only one city, no empire.

	19-02-2003 12:22									#23
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OCC = One City Challenge (not campaign)

	19-02-2003 15:10									#24
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In my current game everwhre is f****ing mountains so i need my harbours to make my cotsal cities work. Without em I would be screwed.( and i'm in trouble anyway)