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of the Gulag Archipelago
Apr 2001
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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Military vehicles with anti-aircraft missiles have been deployed around Washington, and fighter jet patrols over the nation's capital and New York have been increased as a result of the elevated threat of terrorist attack, Pentagon officials told CNN on Tuesday.
It's the first deployment of "Avenger" air-defense systems since September, when Humvees outfitted with ground-to-air Stinger missiles were deployed with Sentinel radars around the Pentagon and other military installations. The "Avenger" is a portable, short-range air-defense system mounted on a Humvee that can rapidly fire eight Stinger missiles.
The steps come as security across the nation is being raised. On Friday, President Bush's Homeland Security Council raised the national threat level from yellow to orange. Orange indicates a "high" risk of terrorist attack, and yellow indicates an "elevated" risk.
In addition, patrols by fighter aircraft that have been in place for months over Washington and New York have been stepped up as a precaution, officials said. Also in response to the heightened alert, the U.S. Customs Service has increased its Black Hawk helicopter surveillance patrols over Washington.
As of last month, the helicopters typically flew between 6 a.m. and 10 p.m. Officials tell CNN that the patrols are now being conducted around the clock.
The level was raised in part because of a high amount of "chatter" being intercepted by intelligence agencies.
All 425 military bases in the United States have increased security levels from Threat Condition Alpha to Threat Condition Bravo. The Pentagon remains at a still-higher state of alert, Threat Condition Charlie. |
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On the Net
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/02/11/ai...nses/index.html
Scary.
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DinoDoc
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AECCP loves Democracy
Sep 1999
time: 23:25
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Troops Posted at Heathrow for Muslim Festival
LONDON (Reuters) - Britain drafted hundreds of troops into Heathrow airport and other key sites around London Tuesday as a precaution against possible al Qaeda attacks during the Muslim Eid festival.
Police said the measure was precautionary and designed to coincide with the end of the festival being celebrated in mosques across Britain and the world this week.
Eid al-Adha, the three-day Muslim celebration of the end of the annual Haj pilgrimage, started Tuesday.
"From time to time, it is necessary to raise levels of security activity," the Metropolitan police said in a statement. "We think it is prudent to do so now."
"The current strengthening of security is precautionary and is related to action being taken in other countries and the possibility that the end of the religious festival of Eid may erroneously be used by al Qaeda and associated networks to mount attacks."
They said heightened security would be most visible at London's biggest airport, Heathrow, and was connected to "a potential threat to the capital."
The use of troops to support police is not unusual in Britain and was used for years in Northern Ireland to deal with the threat from Irish Republican Army (news - web sites) guerrillas.
But this is the first time the army has been posted at Heathrow since 1994, when the IRA tried to launch a mortar attack on the airport.
British police do not habitually carry arms.
Some 450 troops were guarding the airport, with other soldiers working alongside police in central London.
Heathrow managing director, Mick Temple, called for passengers' understanding.
"We would ask passengers to continue to be vigilant and patient in the light of any delays caused by these or any other additional security measures..," he said.
Those passing through the airport Tuesday morning welcomed the appearance of tanks and armored cars on the approach to the passenger terminals.
"At first I felt quite threatened when I saw the soldiers but it does make me feel safer knowing they are here," said Marguerite Withers, 66, flying to Dubai to visit her son.
"It is just sad that all this is necessary, that we have to have all this security."
Russell Steingolb, a 39-year-old New Yorker traveling to Paris, said: "When I saw the tanks pull up my first reaction was that this is a sign of war but as a passenger it does make me feel safer, absolutely.
Britain's support for Washington's war on terror, allied to its hawkish stance on Iraq, has raised fears that the country might be targeted by Islamic extremists.
Earlier Tuesday, police confirmed they had arrested a 25-year-old North African man under terror legislation after he arrived in London on a Eurostar train from France last Thursday. |
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Aug 2002
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I said both want to protect civilians by shooting down planes which can kill civilians. However, the US has killed people in Iraq, regardless of what it says about the no-fly zones. I want to see proof before I believe Washington's sorties in the No-Fly zones are just.
However, Washington can stick anti-aircraft units in it's city, and for all we know they could fire a missile at an innocent plane.
Sure, the US can fly around in Iraq, bombing random targets and saying that Iraq's Anti-Aircraft policy is in violation of the UN resolution, but as soon as they get information of a possible terrorist attack in the US, they get all scared, stick anti-aircraft weapons in their cities and if they get the slightest hint a plane has been hijacked, whether it's a dodgy signal or whatever, they fire missiles and could hit anything.
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David Floyd
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The bottom of a large bottle of beer
Jan 1970
time: 05:25
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And if you really do think our planes Iraq have attempting to kill innocent people as their mission, you really have gone off the deep end. |
Actually, your average Iraqi conscript hasn't done anything wrong.
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David Floyd
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The bottom of a large bottle of beer
Jan 1970
time: 05:25
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Positive or not hje is democratically elected and we can democratically unelect him. |
I think the democratic election bit is sufficiently in doubt - it's at least unclear. In any case, this isn't what you said earlier - just that the world would be a better place without Saddam. And you know, there are enough Iraqis to overthrow him if they really wanted to, so it's their responsibility, not ours. Unless, of course, you are again making the "world a better place" argument, in which I refer you to the same argument about Dubya.
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It's Saddam who's conscipting boys so he can continue to produce WoMD. |
a)What does conscription have to do with WoMD?
b)Are you admitting that conscription is wrong?
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It's Saddam who's putting the human shields on military targets just so they'll be killed |
They won't be killed unless the US attacks, duh 
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Face it he's to blame for all this and are only choice is to be appeasers who let it slide or to actually try to inforce UNSC resolutions. |
The only reason the US cares about the UNSC in this case is that they happen to agree with us.
Frozzy,
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Actually, Bush could conscript all able males, |
No he couldn't. Not only is it unconstitutional, but he would be facing major riots and probably a great deal of violence inside the US. Needless to say he'd lose re-election, and if he did it after winning the election he'd be "unelected" in a different way, quite possibly.
And yes, SCOTUS has indeed ruled that conscription is Constitutional. However, if you look at the decision, handed down during WW1, you will see that the parts relevant to conscription make no relevant legal arguments and is really just a bunch of patriotic, nationalistic pap that should be ripe for review.
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Jon Miller
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conscription is a neccesary evil, just like suspending habeus corpus or declaring Bush president for life
Jon Miler
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Originally posted by David Floyd
I think the democratic election bit is sufficiently in doubt - it's at least unclear. In any case, this isn't what you said earlier - just that the world would be a better place without Saddam. And you know, there are enough Iraqis to overthrow him if they really wanted to, so it's their responsibility, not ours. Unless, of course, you are again making the "world a better place" argument, in which I refer you to the same argument about Dubya.
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1. Due process was followed and Legally BUSH was declared the winner in Florida. Therefore, the election is NOT in doubt whatsoever.
2. The Media panel tasked with investigating the Florida election, reported that Gore could NOT have won Florida.
If this is UNCLEAR to you, then that's your problem,
Please move on.
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12-02-2003 11:03
... damn it! im always to late to these threads
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