13-02-2003 02:55									#1
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Everything the same as the last chat: #smacdg, apolyton server, etc.

I presume so at least. Please correct me if i'm wrong GT.

	13-02-2003 02:55									#2
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Jedinica Vrijstaat orders, MY 2249 onwards

Question to the Commissioner

GT, are my general orders for several of the formers ok, or do I still need to give detailed tile-per-tile soil enricher per soil enricher orders?

Requests to the DPO
Could you please design a 0-1-2*2 fusion probe team?
Could you please design a 0-1-4*2 probe foil with deep radar?
Could you please design a 0-3-5*2 transport with deep radar?

Requests to the DIA
Could you please design a 0-1-2*2 super former?
Could you please design a 0-1-6*2 super fusion cruiser former?
Rush requests (perhaps more may be added depending on the former poll):
Concordia: research hospital: 144 ec
Pandemonium: energy bank: 42 ec
Sheathed Sword: tree farm: 212 ec
Terminal Dogma: research hospital: 184 ec
Valhalla: tree farm: 36 ec
Total: 618 ec

Build queues

Concordia (second item put in between)
research hospital
0-1-2*2 fusion probe team
hybrid forest
fusion lab
centauri preserve

Pandemonium (nothing changed)
energy bank
research hospital
fusion lab
centauri preserve

Sheathed Sword (second item put in between)
tree farm
0-1-4*2 probe foil with deep radar
0-1-6*2 super fusion cruiser former
research hospital
fusion lab
centauri preserve

Terminal Dogma (whole queue reworked)
research hospital
<6>-1-9*2 missile interceptor
hybrid forest
fusion lab
centauri preserve


Valhalla (second item and following added)
tree farm
0-1-6*2 super fusion cruiser former
0-1-2*2 super former
0-1-2*2 super former
0-3-5*2 transport with deep radar
research hospital

Worker allocations

Concordia
When the borehole is finished, put an engineer on it as a worker.

Sheathed Sword
In MY 2250 this base will grow. Please changed the extra worker into an engineer.

Crawlers

Concordian crawler on (10.78) S-SW of Concordia, convoying minerals
-move to Pandemonium
-rehome to Pandemonium
-move back to the original tile (10.78)
-convoy minerals

Concordian crawler on (14.78) SE-SE-SE of Concordia, convoying minerals
-move to Valhalla
-rehome to Valhalla
-move back to the original tile (14.78)
-convoy minerals

Formers

Let all formers (six, with two more to be built in Valhalla) around Concordia and Valhalla first finish their current task (borehole and forest) and then plant soil enrichers on all four farmed tiles in that area. If finished, move on to construct soil enrichers on all farms near Pandemonium.

Let all four formers on (13.65) S-SE of ShSw construct soil enrichers on the farms around Sheathed Sword. If finished, move on to the farms near Pandemonium.

One of the two Pandemonian formers (16.68) SW-SW of TeDo
-move to Sheathed Sword
-rehome to Sheathed Sword
-help the four above formers with enriching the soil of the farms around Sheathed Sword and Pandemonium.

The other second Pandemonian former (16.68) SW-SW of TeDo
-move one tile N to (16.66)
-build road
-remove fungus
-construct mine

Sheathed Swordian 0-2t-1 trance former (14.56) S of Ankh-Morpork
-move to Ankh-Morpork and rehome. Give control over to the Solarian governor.

Terminal Dogmatic former (14.56) S of Ankh-Morpork
-move to (12.60) N of ShSw
-build road
-help the four above formers with enriching the soil of the farms around Sheathed Sword and Pandemonium.

Any sea former

Just build kelp farms and tidal harnesses in the base radius of the base supporting the sea former.

Thanks!

Last edited by Maniac on 14-02-2003 at 17:20

	13-02-2003 03:15									#3
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can you pop a hybrid forest in right before the hospitals in sheathed sword and pandemonium?

rushes

	13-02-2003 04:07									#4
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Well I didn't consider them critical in those bases as they don't have many forests in their radius. But if you insist...

	13-02-2003 04:38									#5
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Preliminary Orders for Akiria, 2249-

Requests to the DIA
Upgrade requests as follows:

upgrade all Akirian formers to super formers design (0-1-1 super, NOT the one with armour on it, but a new, armourless model with a FISSION reactor to save 10 mins a piece)

There are 6 Akiria-supported formers and 3 other formers (iirc) under my command, for 9 total, each of which will cost 30 ec to upgrade as above, for a grand total of 270ecs in upgrades.

Rush requests as follows:

Format of rush costs:
Cost for no carryover (Cost for 10 mineral carryover)

Requested immediately (in order of priority):
- Tree Farm in Cyclops in 1 turn for 134ec (154ec)
- Tree Farm in Twin Peaks in 1 turn for 106ec (126ec)
- Research Hospital in New Tassagrad in 1 turn for 36ec (56ec)
- Network Node in Aurora in 1 turn for 6ec (26ec)

Requested in one turn (on 2250):
- Fusion Sea Formers in Espirito del Aqua in 1 turn for 54ec (84ec)

That's 336ec total in rushes so far. 506 if combined with the upgrades. That's about a turn and a half of our energy profits.

Requested for sometime in the near future:
- When New Tassagrad's crop failure is over, rush the Hab Complex if the amount is reasonable (given our ECs, that means if the first 10 mins are done).
- Anything in Espirito del Aqua, it can't build stuff worth ****

If, during play, a good oppurtunity for a rush comes up, please consider doing it, because we are swimming in ECs and Akiria could benefit greatly from some of them

General Orders for the Commssioner
1) If, for any reason, an Akirian base should begin generating any ED at all, cut mineral production until the ED goes away. Start by un-convoying mineral crawlers, then start moving/pulling workers if necessary. Please use your discretion in worker fiddling, so as to not overly damage nutrient or energy production. If time permits, please check any Akirian base that was near the ED limit (ie over 20 mins) and may have increased production since last checked.

2) Please check, before ending each turn, whether the next turn will bring a drone riot for any Akirian base. If so, please take preventative steps. I'll understand if time constraints make this touch-and-go, but please do your best to prevent drone riots (as opposed to fixing the problem after the riot starts).

Specific Orders for the Commssioner
1) Keep an eye on Espirito del Aqua and take steps to prevent possible drone riots. Particularly after the CC is built.
2) Remember those rushes this time!

Build Queues

Unchanged from current (as of the save)

Crawlers
New Tassagrad Crawler at 13,109 (S from NT)
- move to 10,112 (SW, SW, SW)
- Convoy minerals

Twin Peaks Crawler #2 (in TP), to be built
- Move to 22,112 (SW)
- Convoy nutrients (displace worker to an unworked forest square)

Cyclops Crawler #2 (in Cyclops), to be built
- Move to 7,119 (W, S)
- Convoy nutrients (displace worker to an unworked forest square)

Cyclops Crawler #3 (in Cyclops), to be built
- Move to 10,118 (SE)
- Convoy nutrients (displace worker to an unworked forest square)

Espirito del Aqua Sea Trawler #1 (in EdA), to be built
- Move to nearest FWS squre with a mining platform
- Convoy minerals (displace worker to a good unworked square)

All other Crawlers to be left unchanged.

Formers

Note: I'm assuming that any formers in Akirian territory are under my command and am thus giving orders for them. If any are not under my control, please ignore any of my orders for them and notify me which ones are not under my control. Note that I've ceased giving orders for the DEM and NA formers just outside Cyclops since they appear to be doing other things.

The group (#1) of:
Zanarkand Gate Former (10,118) SE of Cyclops, removing fungus
Aurora Former (10,118) SE of Cyclops, removing fungus
Cyclops Former (10,118) SE of Cyclops, removing fungus
- Finish removing fungus
- Build road
- Build Farm
- Build Condensor
- Build Soil Enricher
- Move to 7,119 (SW W)
- Build Soil Enricher
- Move to 6,118 (NW)
- Build road
- Build Farm
- Build Soil Enricher

New Tassagrad Former (7,119) SW SW of Cyclops, no orders
- Finish removing fungus
- Build road
- Move to (12,110) (N N N E E)
- Build Soil Enricher
- Move to (13,109) (NE)
- Build Soil Enricher
- Move to (14,110) (SE)
- Build Mine
- Build Road
- Move to (18,108) (NE NE E)
- Build farm (replace forest)
- Build condensor
- Build Soil Enricher

The group (#2) of:
Aurora Former (22,114) S SW of Twin Peaks, no orders
Aurora Former (22,114) S SW of Twin Peaks, planting forest
Aurora Former (22,114) S SW of Twin Peaks, no orders
- Finish planting forest
- Move to (22,112) (N)
- Build Soil Enricher
- Move to (20,112) (W)
- Build Soil Enricher
- Move to (21,109) (NE N)
- Build Condensor
- Build Soil Enricher
- Move to (18,108) (NW W)
- Build farm (replace forest)
- Build Condensor
- Build Soil Enricher

Tacticus Academy Former (22,108) N NW of Twin Peaks, no orders
- Move to (22,112) (S S)
- Build Soil Enricher
- Join former group #2 (follow their orders)

Crystalis Former (22,112) SW of Twin Peaks, no orders
- Build Soil Enricher
- Join former group #2 (follow their orders)

New Apolyton Former (26,114) SE SE SE of Twin Peaks, removing fungus
- finish removing fungus
- build farm
- build condensor
- build soil enricher
- build road

New Tassagrad Sea Former (15,105) NE NE of New Tassagrad, no orders
- Build Kelp Farm
- Move to (17, 105) (E)
- Build Mining Platform (square for use by EdA)
- Build Kelp Farm
- Move to (19,103) (NE NE)
- Build Tidal Harness
- Move to (18,104) (SW)
- Build Tidal Harness
- Build Kelp Farm

Espirito del aqua Former, when finished
- Join the New Tassagrad Sea former (orders just above this)

Any other Formers built during the turnchat:
- Probably just join a nearby former group, but feel free to use your discretion (short of boreholing the place to swiss cheese )


Workers

Aurora Worker (21,109) (SE SE of base)
- Switch to a forest square.

Espirito del Aqua Worker (17, 101) (NE of base)
- Become empath to stop pending drone riot

Espirito del Aqua Worker (18, 102) (E of base)
- Switch to (15,105) (S SW of base)

New Workers in any of the land bases
- Cultivate a farm square if nutrients are really needed, a forest square otherwise. Feel free to use your discretion if it would help the base.

New Workers in EdA
- Keep the food coming in, and go for any mining platforms that get built. If feasible, take some off of non-mineral low energy squares to work as engineers (or empaths, if needed).

Last edited by Cedayon on 13-02-2003 at 04:50

	13-02-2003 04:39									#6
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c & p'd from the Akiria thread.

Hmm, hybrids... I need other stuff though... hmm...

	13-02-2003 04:47									#7
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Twin Sea Preliminary Orders MY 2249-2256

Surprisingly not much to do this turn, the infrastructure queues in all bases are nearly full due to last turns orders, and the industrialization is proceeding as planned.

Build Queues

Crystalis (no change)

Mysidia (no change)

New Suez (no change)

U.N. Research Complex (no change)

Transcendence Academy
-change production form Fungicidal Former Mk2 to Recreation Commons
-rush Recreation Commons

Heaven’s Gate (no change)

Crawlers

Any newly constructed crawlers are to move to unoccupied forest locations and are to convoy minerals.

Formers

Upgrade all formers in Twin Sea region to Super Formers (doubles terraforming rate).

Move formers to squares not already containing forests, and remove fungus (if necessary), plant forests & build roads; except in rocky areas, in which case construct mines and build roads.

	13-02-2003 06:00									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Maniac Well I didn't consider them critical in those bases as they don't have many forests in their radius. But if you insist...

well, i guess they're not critical...you can bump them down if you want. i just think we should put them in place, since they not only increase forest output, but mainly increase lab and economy output (so if you want to put fusion labs first, go ahead)

	13-02-2003 06:16									#9
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This will not do

Apart from Maniac ( requests granted) most other Governors ( not TKG or Cedayon)), especially Voltaire, have just submitted build orders. Their early defence promises are not being delivered. I will appeal to the DIA and Alpha Talent if there is not a stronger defence commitment from all regions.

	13-02-2003 06:21									#10
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I'm not sure I ever made defense promises... I've asked a few times (like last time) if you wanted NT to build some units, but I never got a response so I commited it to the XD.

If you want some units built, let me know which units and how many.

In the future, please ask me directly if you want something done before threatening to appeal to higher officials to force me to do that thing.

	13-02-2003 06:31									#11
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herc, what specifically do you need, again? i'm currently in the middle of a huge effort to beef up the infastructure in aurillion, so i doubt i'll be able to help there. maybe once my new super formers have completed a few boreholes, and i have hybrid forests and fusion labs everywhere, i'll commit some bases to building ships and air units. until then...

as DIA however, i can force some coastal bases in centralis and twin sea to build you ships if you need, but i think Suez is building a project ATM.

Aurillian Orders

upgrade all aurillian formers to super formers design (0-1-1 super, NOT the one with armour on it)

Build Queues

UNPD
Rush Hab complex (80 credits)
NEW DESIGN: Super fusion formers (0-1-2*2 super) (RUSH AFTER 10 MINERALS)
Super Fusion formers (RUSH AFTER 10 MINERALS)
Hybrid forest
fusion lab

Zanarkand Gate
Rush tree farm (6 credits)
delete missile cruiser
Super Fusion formers (RUSH AFTER 10 MINERALS)
Super Fusion formers (RUSH AFTER 10 MINERALS)
hybrid forest
hab complex
fusion lab

Deus Ex Machina
finish energy bank
Super Fusion formers (RUSH AFTER 10 MINERALS)
Super Fusion formers (RUSH AFTER 10 MINERALS)
hybrid forest
hab complex
fusion lab

Xanadu
in 1 turn, rush tree farm (162 credits)
Super Fusion formers (RUSH AFTER 10 MINERALS)
Super Fusion formers (RUSH AFTER 10 MINERALS)
hybrid forest

UN Marine Institute
rush rec commons (26 credits)
replace Sea formers with Super Fusion sea formers (RUSH AFTER 10 MINERALS)
keep existing queue thereafter

Crawlers
move (9, 101) crawler outside ZG to (11, 103) and crawl minerals
move (7, 105) crawler to (9, 107) and crawl minerals
move (14, 98) trawler 1 space north and crawl energy

Formers
Group S SW of DEM - cancel current job, both work on borehole in current square
NW of DEM - cancel current job, assist in construction of borehole 2 tiles south
(6, 98) former - move to 11,97 and construct borehole
DEM former N N of cyclops - finish job, move to 5,115, build road, then borehole
Zanarkand Gate former SE of Cyclops - cancel orders for it, and move to 5,115 to assist in borehole construction
UNPD former S SE of transcend academy - move to 11,103 and construct borehole
Outside UNMI: after kelp farm, build mining platform
Sea former from Xanadu: head north to terraform Circular Quay, transfer control to Centralis

New formers from UNPD: more to 11,97 and build borehole, then to 15,93 to build BH
" " " ZG: move to 11,103 and build borehole, then to 8,102 to lower terrain
from DEM: move to 2,102 and build borehole (replace condensor), then to 3,99 to remove fungus, build borehole
from Xanadu: to 5,115 to build borehole, then 7,111 to build BH

Workers
UNPD: move one sea worker to a forest
ZG: change empath to work a forest
DEM: no changes
Xanadu: no changes
UNMI: make it look like the attached picture

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	13-02-2003 09:31									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Hercules This will not do Apart from Maniac ( requests granted) most other Governors ( not TKG or Cedayon)), especially Voltaire, have just submitted build orders. Their early defence promises are not being delivered. I will appeal to the DIA and Alpha Talent if there is not a stronger defence commitment from all regions.

Infrastructure takes priority, and before I can commit the industrial power of the Twin Sea region to defense I have to keep my promise to industrializing and modernizing the entirety of the region. I would also the question of building up unnecessary defensive measures when the minerals could be put to use of improving the lives of the regions people. The Hive has to date not attacked us on our home soil, our current defenses have been sufficient in keeping native lifeforms at bay, and many bases still lack even the most basic infrastructure.

I will concede that the Twin Sea defense forced need an overhaul, but I don’t see the need to devote the minerals of the region to the construction of new units when the DPO can simply upgrade the existing units, this should hardly be a problem given that the new free market economic system produces a surplus great enough to fund such an endeavor. So in short I would request that that DPO, rather than complain about the lack of interest the Twin Sea administration has taken in defense, overhaul the forces in the Twin Sea region using DPO funds.

	13-02-2003 11:07									#13
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All is correct, Maniac, thank you for posting this and saving me the trouble.

	13-02-2003 11:18									#14
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quote: Question to the Commissioner GT, are my general orders for several of the formers ok, or do I still need to give detailed tile-per-tile soil enricher per soil enricher orders?

The current format is fine. Besides, it gets tricky to follow detailed tile-by-tile orders by the end of the chat anyway.

	13-02-2003 17:56									#15
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Hmm, maybe I'll redo the format of my former orders, then...

Btw, who's doing orders for Solaris?

	13-02-2003 23:09									#16
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Direct our research according to this poll. As I will not be able to attend the turnchat, the Commissioner is empowered to break any ties should they occur.

	14-02-2003 02:30									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Cedayon Hmm, maybe I'll redo the format of my former orders, then... Btw, who's doing orders for Solaris?

i thought maniac was until MWIA got back. i could do them if neither of you want to though.

	14-02-2003 04:57									#18
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quote: Originally posted by TKG i thought maniac was until MWIA got back. i could do them if neither of you want to though.

Oh, Maniac is doing them, k ... I just wanted to make sure someone was doing it so GT doesn't kill us come turnchat time

	14-02-2003 05:27									#19
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And I thought Cedayon was doing them. I'll try to have in some 20 hours. if anyone feels tempted to do them in the meantime, be my guest!

PS: One of those two formers loaned to Solaris I have recalled to Sheathed Sword as a lot of soil enrichers and boreholes will be built there soon. The second (the one with synthmetal trance defence) I have ordered rehomed to Ankh-Morpork and have given over control to the Solarian authorities.

	14-02-2003 05:50									#20
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I've gotta go somewhere about... now, really ... but I'll be back in 2 hours or so and I'll do Solaris' orders then.

	14-02-2003 09:02									#21
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On request I've made these orders for Solaris. Feel free to pick them apart and change whatever, anyone, as I don't have authority here.

Possible Orders for Solaris 2249-

Requests to the DIA
Rush requests as follows:

Format of rush costs:
Cost for no carryover (Cost for 10 mineral carryover)

Requested immediately:
- Children's Creche in Ankh-Morpork in 1 turn for 46ec (66ec)
- Fung. Formers Mk2 in Shangri-La in 1 turn for 37ec (dunno what for +10)
- Supply Crawler in Metropolis in 1 turn for 7ec
- Fung. Formers Mk2 in Capricorn in 1 turn for 85ec
- Fusion Sea Formers in U.N. Aquaxenobanana in 1 turn for 42ec

Requested for a bit later:
Whatever you can live with the cost of rushing, Solaris, at this stage, really needs whatever funds we can give it.

Build Queues

Ankh-Morpork
Current Project: Children's Creche
Queue (not changed):
Supply Crawler
Rec Commons (if necessary)
Supply Crawler
Network Node
Former

Shangri-La
Current Project: Former
Queue (not changed):
Children's Creche
Supply Crawler
Rec Commons (if necessary)
Supply Crawler
Network Node
Former (if necessary)

Metropolis
Current Project: Supply Crawler (for the nearby rocky mine)
Queue (not changed):
Children's Creche
Rec Commons (if necessary)
Supply Crawler
Network Node
Former (if necessary)

Capricorn
Current Project: Former
Queue (changed):
Rec Commons (if necessary)
Supply Crawler
Children's Creche
Network Node
Supply Crawler

U.N. Aquaxenobanana
Current Project: Fusion Sea Formers
Queue (not changed):
Children's Creche
Rec Commons (if necessary)
Sea Trawler
Sea Former (if there's enough minerals to spare the support)
Network Node
Sea Trawler

Crawlers

Just pick good spots when the crawlers come on-line. A really good one, though, is for a Metro crawler to convoy minerals from the adjacent mine at (17,59, just W of the base).

Formers

Ankh-Morpork Former (18,54) (SW of Shangri-La), building condensor
- Finish condensor
- Build Soil Enricher
- Move to (18,52) (N)
- Build road
- Plant Forest (or should it be farmed?)
- Move to (17, 51) (NW)
- Build road
- Build mine

Metropolis Former (22,58) (NE E of Metro), removing fungus
- finish removing fungus
- Build road
- Build farm
- Build condensor (if necessary)
- Move to (24, 60) (SE)
- Remove fungus
- Build road
- (from here depends on priorities)

If Shangri-La builds a former, have it assist the A-M former nearby.
If Capricorn builds a former, have it assist the Metro former nearby.
If UNABanana build a former, put a mining platform or two up in the kelp squares, toss in a tidal harness if there's time.

Terminal Dogma Former (14,56) (S of A-M), no orders
- recalled by Maniac, so do as he says... thanks for the formers, Maniac, that condensor farm is working wonders for A-M

Sheathed Sword Former (same place as the TD former), no orders
- move to A-M (N)
- rehome to A-M (as per Maniac's orders)
- move back to (14,56) (S)
- build soil enricher
- move to (16,56) (E)
- build farm
- build soil enricher
- build condensor

Workers

Ankh-Morpork:
- The base will grow in 2 turns, creating a drone riot situation (if nothing changes), so in 1 turn (on 2250) pull a worker into empath duty to avert that.

Metro Worker at (16,60) (W SW of base)
- Switch to the unworked forest square, it's better

U.N. Aquaxenobanana:
- The base will grow in 1 turn, creating a drone riot situation (if nothing changes), so immediately pull a worker into empath duty to avert that.

New Workers
- At this stage the bases simply need food, the workers should be placed accordingly. If possible, work some good mineral squares. Hopefully some more forest can be planted soon (even though I'm doing little but condensor farms right now ).

Last edited by Cedayon on 14-02-2003 at 22:47

	14-02-2003 15:51									#22
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PRELIMINARY ORDERS AS OF MY 2249:

Build Queue Orders:
New Apolyton:
Add former to beginning of build queue.
Add former to build queue after Fusion Lab.

ThisBaseIsBelongToUs:
None.

Tacticus Academy:
Insert Hybrid Forest at end of build queue once PE is discovered.
Insert Aerospace Complex after that.

Antioch:
None.

Worker Placement Orders:
Tacticus Academy:
Switch one Empath to an Engineer.

Crawler Orders:
Have 16,88 crawler cash in at NA for AV.

Former Orders:
Tacticus Academy former (9,79), NNW of Antioch, clear fungus.
- Continue clearing fungus.
- When done, build farm, solar, then soil enricher. Next move back and build soil enrichers on every condenser square in Centralis.

Tacticus Academy former (8, 84), SWSW of Antioch, construct soil enricher.
- Continue current project.
- When done, carry on building soil enrichers on every condenser and farm square available.

Antioch former (9,79), NNW of Antioch, clear fungus.
- Continue clearing fungus.
- When done, build farm, solar, then soil enricher. Next move back and build soil enrichers on every condenser square in Centralis.


ThisBaseIsBelongToUs former (9,79), NNW of Antioch, clear fungus.
- Continue clearing fungus.
- When done, build farm, solar, then soil enricher. Next move back and build soil enrichers on every condenser square in Centralis.


ThisBaseIsBelongToUs former (16,86), SE of TBIBTU, no orders.
- Clear fungus.
- Build road.
- Plant forest.
- Move W & repeat.
- Move NW & repeat

New Apolyton former (16,86), SE of TBIBTU, clear fungus.
- Clear fungus.
- Build road.
- Plant forest.
- Move W & repeat.
- Move NW & repeat

ThisBaseIsBelongToUs former (10,80), N of Antioch, plant forest.
- Continue current project.
- Move NE, build road, then forest. Next move back and build soil enrichers on every condenser square in Centralis.

Rush Requests:
(Excluding cost of AV in NA)

Fusion Lab in Antioch for 128 ECs (optimal price)
Centauri Preserve in TA (after Biology Lab) for 144 ECs (optimal price)
Hybrid Forest in TA (after Centauri Preserve) for ~420 ECs (optimal price)

Total: ~672 ECs.

	14-02-2003 17:19									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Cedayon Terminal Dogma Former (14,56) (S of A-M), no orders - move to A-M (N) - rehome to A-M (as per Maniac's orders) - Sheathed Sword Former (same place as the TD former), no orders - recalled by Maniac, so do as he says... thanks for the formers, Maniac, that condensor farm is working wonders for A-M

Note: it's the Sheathed Swordian former that I would prefer to rehome to Ankh-Morpork, not the Terminal Dogmatic. Currently a Pandemonian former is under as well to be rehomed at ShSw. That way every base in Jedinica will support three land formers, no more, no less.

Note: I have updated my previous orders post for sea formers.

	14-02-2003 22:48									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Maniac Note: it's the Sheathed Swordian former that I would prefer to rehome to Ankh-Morpork, not the Terminal Dogmatic.

Edited my orders to reflect this.

	15-02-2003 01:01									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Cedayon Fung. Formers Mk2 Supply Crawler Fusion Sea Formers

fung. formers mk2? what?
supply crawlers i *think* are the same cost with the rover chassis with fusion (are they?) so we might as well build them, and are your sea formers super?

	15-02-2003 01:09									#26
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Those are just what the bases are producing currently... I just put "former", "Supply Crawler" and such in the build queue, GT's the one who picks which one.

I could see about changing the model, though it might cost some minerals for the ones currently being built.

I would prefer fission super, myself...

	15-02-2003 14:49									#27
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Okay, the only orders we need now are TKG's approval or otherwise of the requested rushes, Herc's, and some DEI orders (although we can probably just carry on doing what we were ebfore, which was exploring to the nroth and recalling the combat foils).

	15-02-2003 20:36									#28
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all rushes, especially aurillian ones are approved. and tacticus, insert a few well-placed rushes into twin sea aswell

i'll have the DIA orders ready soon, base placements and such...

	15-02-2003 23:11									#29
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Btw, I won't be able to attend this turnchat. Like the last one, I'm on campus and my University has an irrational hatred for IRC.

	16-02-2003 03:03									#30
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I just realied something: Who's running UN Circular Quay??
UN Circular Quay build queue (also change current construction)
police infantry
super fusion cruiser former (same type as in Jedinica VS)
rec commons

D of Science order

Move the alien artifact near N of Ankh-Morpork to Sheathed Sword, but do NOT cash it in until AdamTG says to do so.

DEI orders

Same old orders as last time (I wrote them 10 minutes ago, but I lost them and I don't feel like rewriting) EXCEPT:
*(126.88) trance laser skimship move to UN Circular Quay
*TBIBTU probe team move to Valhalla
*Two exploring units in Twin Peaks and trance scout defensive N of Ankh-Morpork return to control of the DPO.
*Fusion probe team to be constructed (tbc) in Concordia: move to Valhalla
*Fusion probe foil tbc in ShSw: explore the three large unexplored spots on the map in the sea west of ShSw.

DPO orders

*the mind worm on (7.95) should move to the fungus tile (16.74) (when in fungus they don't cost support)
*trance scout defensive (14.52) moves to Sheathed Sword
*the two AAA missile infantries and the gatling squad move to Valhalla

I have the feeling I missed some things, but whatever...
If any military units get finished, please ask in the chat what to do with them.

Hercules, perhaps you should post a poll asking if we should invade the Hive, and ask how many units each region should deliver for that war, in absolute numbers or as a percentage of the total mineral production of that region which should support offensive military units. Then you have legal arguments and the governors can't refuse to build military units, command centres & aerospace complexes.